Thoughts on takebacks?

I would only accept the takeback when it is clear that the opponent made a mouse slip. Otherwise, I would decline it, because it is not fair if the opponent moves but sees that it is a wrong move and so proposes a takeback.

For example when the opponent moves the queen, but later sees that it can be eaten and so proposes a takeback. I would decline it.

IMHO, each chess player should play here like OTB tournament. Think and then move. Mistakes costs a game.

lichess rating is not worth anything, so there is no need to apply otb tournament rules

@orinharris

1. Yes, there is an option to use move confirmation for classical and not for blitz. It's a simple click to turn it on and off in preferences. You can handle that. I know you can, because I often turn mine on and off **mid-game**.

2. It is obnoxious for someone that can't bother to double-check their move to expect your opponent to deal with your error when they are trying to play chess. Not the other way around. You are merely pushing responsibility to your opponent. Stop this.

3. It is YOUR carelessness that ruined a perfectly enjoyable game, not your opponent's. Again, you are pushing responsibility to your opponent for YOUR carelessness.

4. The stuff about a trackpad is a red herring. You could be using a dance dance revolution floormat to enter your moves and could do it with 100% accuracy with move confirmation turned on.

Take responsibility yourself. It is not your opponent's fault.

@DunnoItAll

"#1"

I'm in the preferences now. I don't see this option.

"#2-#4"

I apply the golden rule: I wouldn't do to someone else that I wouldn't want done to me. And frankly, in classical time controls, an incredibly obvious misclick? No sweat. I don't see what the big deal is. It's just not obnoxious at all. Certainly not the way an ambiguous claimed misclick is. And certainly not nearly as obnoxious as having a misclick ruin a perfectly good game.

@orinharris, when one misclicks and the other one declines a takeback, who ruined a perfectly good game?

@avakar, when one accidentally drops a $100 bill on the ground, and the person next to them sees them drop it and picks it up and declines to hand it back over to them, whose fault is it that one lost the $100?

Answer: technically it's the accidenters fault, but the person who doesn't hand it back is still placed with the burden of the moral blame in pretty much any ethical framework. It's no different here, where there are rules invented for the sole purpose of preventing certain abuses. It just so happens that there are certain cases where it is obvious that none of those abuses are occurring, where the "spirit" of the technical rule doesn't apply, and in which case a person has a choice of either "keeping the $100 on a technicality" or to just not be a jerk and hand the $100 bill back.

@orinharris I've seen you compare takeback requests to holding the door for somebody and now to somebody dropping a 100$...

If you're going to compare a game of chess, compare it to something relevant.
A rated game of chess is a COMPETITION between two people (I'm not talking about a friendly game with a bud or your girlfriend!)
So takebacks would be the equivalent of one footballer mis-kicking the ball (cause he didn't tie his shoe properly) and asking to stop everything, so that he can kick the ball again. Cause that's not where he really wanted the ball to go.

Now we're comparing apples with apples, cause what you've been doing is comparing apples and dogs.

Dude I have to admit, after what everybody typed here I don't know if you're saying what you're saying with a smile on your face, cause you know you're wrong, or just completely clueless.

@orinharris

Click preferences, then game behavior. You could make a shortcut to it on your bookmarks bar if you'd like to. I have one. It's two clicks to turn it on or off.

Your $100 bill analogy is terrible. You are in a competition with your opponent, not casually walking down the street with no relationship to the opponent. Your opponent has every ability to prevent the input errors, but for some reason refuses to do so. Laziness is the only reason I can think of. No one is under any obligation to cater to this. The fact that you expect it is, honestly, disappointing.

Lots of angry chess players on here, reminds me much of the esports of old days. For certain if an icon is displayed in front of a players handle, it's up to the other player to choose to play this particular "no takeback" game. I was trying to be a little humorous earlier, but the $100 ethical question made me disappointed so I got my thinking cap on this time around, so again, would the lichess "strict player icon" be too much of a bother? No sense of cutting the baby in half, especially when it's really just a gentle game of chess and not battle royal play for money poker, "It's Just A Game" and if it's more than a game to you then you're playing chess for the wrong reasons.

A literal mean face icon, so the whole community knows who you are and how you play, other wise remove the takeback altogether, or again, a simple mean faced icon.