Thoughts on takebacks?

Excellent points by Sarg0n btw..
You guys try to beat your opponent by moving fast, but if YOU mouseslip you expect a takeback.
Also takebacks are indeed fundamentally illegal.

So from what I've seen here this is my conclusion;

Chess noobs: If I make a mistake and my opponent doesn't give me another chance, he's a mean person, bad sportsman and a horrible human being!

Experienced players: Mouseslips are part of online chess (same as touch move OTB) and wouldn't even think of asking for a takeback.

As I've said a number of times already, I can take all the time in the world, and my trackpad will still sometimes deposit my queen one square in front of the hanging piece I'm trying to take. In cases like this it has absolutely nothing with being a noob or playing fast, it's just a completely obvious misclick, and in those cases you're just being a poor sport if you don't let the person take it back. Sure it's totally different if you are playing blitz. But if you are taking your time in long time controls and a completely obvious misclick happens, then everything you and Sarg0n have been harping on over and over again just doesn't apply.

After having people keep asking for multiple takebacks per game I ended up disabling takebacks.
Its not that I disagree with giving someone a take back, I just dont want the hassle of having to work out is a take back reasonable every time. And then ohhhkayy is the limit one per game or what.
I must say I've only had an actual misclick maybe twice the whole time I've been on here so the number of takebacks people were asking for seemed pretty excessive.

Yeah, there's method in this take-back madness. People know in advance that they are prone to that and instead of buying a mouse (touch-pad, wtf?) or playing slower variations or confirming moves they are searching for opponents who accept their indecent proposals.

So what, I had neither problems with take-back guys nor with militant re-matchers. The more experienced players know the rules and most of them glench their teeth and lose like man.

hi it should be about making chess more enjoyable. when you play blitz all you care about is winning if that's all you care about you'll never improve. Its enjoyable for me to play

As far as I am concerned: I want to play under fair conditions close to the elementary chess rules. Who is the Eloist, who annoys his opponents?

In my opinion it's best to learn the rules thoroughly with no dubious exceptions in one's favour.

#52

If you use a touch pad to play blitz online you are a noob.

#55

You are flagged a cheater, how about make chess more enjoyable by stopping cheating?

For an experienced player no takebacks is an obvious way to play. Experienced players know the touch rule OTB and have often played in OTB blitz tournaments where you INSTANTLY LOSE if you make an illegal move.

I have now disabled takebacks in rated games. I don't mind looking mean to less experienced players. People who see chess as a sport, as a strategy game and as a mental martial art share my love for these aspects of the game.

#52 as I've said a number of times already, you can use move confirmation (you have to click to accept the move, meaning you get the chance to double-check the move entered was correct) and/or you can type your moves with a keyboard.

It is 100% your fault if you don't enter a move properly. No excuses. YOU are being a poor sport for putting any responsibility for your sloppiness on your opponent.

As @CafeMorphy said, takebacks are fundamentally illegal. If you're playing an over-the-board tournament, you CANNOT have or ask for a takeback.

Furthermore, if you touch a piece then you have to move that piece if it has a legal move. In other words, if you're going to move Qa6 but then realize that's a horrible move, you have to move your queen still. You can move it to another square than you had planned, but you have to move it. Once you let go of the piece, your move is over. Additionally, if you touch your opponent's piece, you HAVE to capture it if you can legally do so. These are the most synonymous things to "misclicks" in oob. Yeah if you accidentally knick it with your wrist then nobody is going to force that rule on you, but if you're moving fast (to intimidate?) and touch the piece then realize half a second later that you don't want to move it, TOO BAD. You have to. No takebacksies in life.

Now, think about what a takeback does to your OPPONENT, not you but the guy sitting in front of you. Chess is an intellectually demanding game. Your opponent is probably already calculating lines for the move you made, what gives you the right to suddenly tell him that all his calculations were for nothing because you actually want to make a different move? That's absurd, unfair.

@DunnoItAll , that would be fine except there is no option to use move confirmation for classical time controls and not for blitz time controls. I'm perfectly happy playing blitz and if I misclick fine, I don't complain. But in classical time controls your argument doesn't hold any water. I never said it wasn't 100% my fault, and I'm not making any excuses whatsoever. If that's what you think I'm saying, you lack reading comprehension. It is completely MY FAULT. But nonetheless, it's stupid and obnoxious for someone in classical time controls to not let you take back an obvious misclick, where there is no possible doubt about whether it was a misclick or not. All it does is ruin an otherwise perfectly enjoyable game. In any case, if there was an option to use move confirmation depending on time controls, that would be a nice feature improvement for people who due to their travelling work environment use trackpads and don't want to keep plugging in and unplugging mice depending on what they're doing.