Max time spent playing

@pepellou said in #10:
> Used how?

You make a solicitation for new important job and the HR recruiter finds out that you spent lots of time at lichess. I know of some HR recruiters that this is enough reason not to hire somebody. They expect people 100% committed to the new job which is rather doubtful if somebody spent a lot of time at lichess in the past. If they can choose somebody else for the job then they will do.

You tell family/ friends/ wife/... that you don't have time for x but they find out that you do have much more time to play at lichess. I think it is not hard to imagine which kind of nasty reactions you can get.

You are 65+ and want to apply for a health assurance. They find out of your lichess-addiction and consider you therefore as too high risk to give such health assurance.

It are just some examples. So yes you really need to be careful with the information shared on the internet about yourself as you never know when or where it will be used against you.

How is removing that number helping your case in those scenarios when ALL your games are publicly listed anyway, with their timestamps and everything? Lol

It seems to me that if you want to hide your activity on the website, this number is the least of your problems xD

@pepellou said in #12:
> How is removing that number helping your case in those scenarios when ALL your games are publicly listed anyway, with their timestamps and everything? Lol
>
> It seems to me that if you want to hide your activity on the website, this number is the least of your problems xD

Ok so you agree it is a problem.

I also think timestamps, ... should be removed (or at least not be publicly listed in combination with the usernames).

Anyway "time spent" just takes a second to check so far too easy for somebody to use against you. So I would definitely put priority at that data before looking at anything else.

@peppie23 said in #13:
> Ok so you agree it is a problem.

No.

I agree it's a problem for a person wanting to have a secret activity and going to do it in a public space where all of it it's tracked and available publicly.

Now *if* you decide to participate in a public space I don't see a problem in having a number like the one described.

@pepellou said in #14:
> Now *if* you decide to participate in a public space I don't see a problem in having a number like the one described.
You have a point of course. On the other hand you also need to understand that there is no real alternative. There exists no platform like lichess providing the same fantastic services without being vulnerable to privacy issues.

So this thread it just to motivate/ stimulate lichess-developers to put even more emphasis at the privacy of the users. In fact they already did a lot of efforts lately which can be seen in some recent changes:
- Hide followers/ following
- No access anymore to closed accounts
- Possibility to hide members of team to non team-members

I guess there is more but there is clear tendency at lichess to increase the privacy of the users so why not also this "time spent".

@peppie23 said in #15:
> why not also this "time spent".

Because it's silly to hide it when it's a summary of your already public activity?

Going down that path, the next thing you'll ask is to make your games not be included in the database ^__^

@pirouetti
Such thing cannot be 'used' against us.
This is Lichess not Lidate!
Hackers don't need these, they only need personal credentials to use it against people.

@pepellou said in #16:

> Going down that path, the next thing you'll ask is to make your games not be included in the database ^__^
It is the mainreason why I switched a few months ago from blitz (3+0) to bullet (2+1). The elite-database from Nico doesn't use bulletgames see database.nikonoel.fr/ (which is for me as 2600 rated player a problem). I am not afraid of the official lichess database as it is too large to work with (I tried several times but it is too much work for too little gain).

I know some masters which only play unrated games so their games are not stored in the database.

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Why is it so difficult to see, @pepellou ?

Yes, it is public, and you can track my games. And you could write some software script even to find out my total activity on Lichess, even more than revealed by the profie page.
But that would be some effort, wouldn't it? There are some reasons not to offer these informations on a golden plate to everyone. @peppie23 suggested a couple of those.

There is not much info on the profile page. Not where I live, not how old I am etc. And though I think it is nice to see from which country my opponent comes, I understand Lichess' reasons not even to ask that information by default. Ok - but what use is it to see how many days and hours I have been playing on Lichess in the last 8 years? There is just no need at all. The database is intact without, so why do the math for those who might want to know?