How much do you like lichess?

@divergentshift said in #5:
> I can't analyze games on this website. I am fairly new to internet chess. And I barely know how to use ai to analyze stuff on here and che$$com. I made a move. And I wanted to know what the best move was according to ai. Whether it was the move I made or something else. Spent 5min trying to figure out this one simple question and could not. All the numbers and buttons all confusing. On che$$com everything is much easier and simple. I would like to use Lichess. But the Che$$com site is just way easier to figure out. And has nicer looking graphics. If I analyze my game on there, I always know what their suggested best move is in any position.

When I request game review on one of my games on chesscom it shows me the list with the moves and some comments every now and then. When it says I failed to see a tactic and I want to see what the best move was that I missed, I get lost in the thousands of clicks that I have to do and tabs that open from the game review page to end up in the analysis board which is where the engine, which is what I'm looking for, actually is.

When you finally end up in that page you can see that it's the exact same analysis board page that there is on Lichess, with the difference that on here you don't need to get crazy to find it because it's right there when you open the game.
On Lichess to see the best move in the position you don't need to request a complete computer analysis, you can just activate the engine button, which is on the top left of the moves list, and it will show you some arrows (according to how many lines you selected in the settings). The thicker the arrow the better the move.

If instead you want to see the computer analysis with acpl and blunders it will show you the best move after an inaccuracy/mistake/blunder directly in the game notation (the moves list to be clear is called that way) in words. If you want to see the best move regardless of an error of the player you can still toggle the engine button to show arrows.

LICHESS > CHESS.COM any second of the minute, any minute of the hour, any hour of the day, any day of the week, any week of the month, any month of the year, any year of the decade, any decade of the century, any century of the millennium, and woah any millennium of the eon. woah

Lately likers.

My favourite time control is 3+2 or 4+2 (but there is no possibility to choose it).

@WRPeter said in #1:
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@arbez said in #14:
> My favourite time control is 3+2 or 4+2 (but there is no possibility to choose it).
There is. 3+2 and 4+2 are blitz

Done,Thx for Sharing

@Deadban said in #11:
> When I request game review on one of my games on chesscom it shows me the list with the moves and some comments every now and then. When it says I failed to see a tactic and I want to see what the best move was that I missed, I get lost in the thousands of clicks that I have to do and tabs that open from the game review page to end up in the analysis board which is where the engine, which is what I'm looking for, actually is.
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> When you finally end up in that page you can see that it's the exact same analysis board page that there is on Lichess, with the difference that on here you don't need to get crazy to find it because it's right there when you open the game.
> On Lichess to see the best move in the position you don't need to request a complete computer analysis, you can just activate the engine button, which is on the top left of the moves list, and it will show you some arrows (according to how many lines you selected in the settings). The thicker the arrow the better the move.
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> If instead you want to see the computer analysis with acpl and blunders it will show you the best move after an inaccuracy/mistake/blunder directly in the game notation (the moves list to be clear is called that way) in words. If you want to see the best move regardless of an error of the player you can still toggle the engine button to show arrows.

I don't understand what any of this means. Like I said I'm new. And I spend forever trying to figure out what the best move is and could not find it. So I would like to know which one has better method of analyzing games between Lichess and Che$$com. But so far Che$$com has considerable better graphics and interface. And easier to understand.

In Lichess I cannot go to a previous game and use the ai to help my analyze it. If I am wrong and that feature is available, then it's too unintuitive to even find.

@divergentshift said in #17:
> I don't understand what any of this means. Like I said I'm new. And I spend forever trying to figure out what the best move is and could not find it. So I would like to know which one has better method of analyzing games between Lichess and Che$$com. But so far Che$$com has considerable better graphics and interface. And easier to understand.
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> In Lichess I cannot go to a previous game and use the ai to help my analyze it. If I am wrong and that feature is available, then it's too unintuitive to even find.

Ok so the steps are:
1) You go to the game you want to analyze;
2) Below the chessboard you go to "computer analysis" tab;
3) You click on the big blue button that says "request a computer analysis" and wait for it to finish;

You can see the mistakes you made as they are highlighted in different colors.

You will find the best move after a mistake directly in the game notation where it says you made a mistake.

If instead you want to see the best move regardless of a mistake, that is at any point in time of the game, you can simply click on the button that is on the top left of the game notation. That is the engine that calculates the best moves.
You give it a few seconds to load and then you will see some blue arrows on the board. The thicker the arrow the better the move is.

You can choose how many lines (arrows) to show in the settings of the analysis by using the grey wheel on the opposite side of the engine button.

You can also enable the engine without requesting a computer analysis via the big blue button, as the engine works locally in your browser/app and uses the cpu of your device to load.

@Deadban said in #18:
> Ok so the steps are:
> 1) You go to the game you want to analyze;
> 2) Below the chessboard you go to "computer analysis" tab;
> 3) You click on the big blue button that says "request a computer analysis" and wait for it to finish;
>
> You can see the mistakes you made as they are highlighted in different colors.
>
> You will find the best move after a mistake directly in the game notation where it says you made a mistake.
>
> If instead you want to see the best move regardless of a mistake, that is at any point in time of the game, you can simply click on the button that is on the top left of the game notation. That is the engine that calculates the best moves.
> You give it a few seconds to load and then you will see some blue arrows on the board. The thicker the arrow the better the move is.
>
> You can choose how many lines (arrows) to show in the settings of the analysis by using the grey wheel on the opposite side of the engine button.
>
> You can also enable the engine without requesting a computer analysis via the big blue button, as the engine works locally in your browser/app and uses the cpu of your device to load.
OK thanks. This is really very helpful. However, it's false about "computer analysis" at the bottom. However, there is "analysis board" button to the right. Also I was trying to find what you mean about button on top left for the engine. The entire box on the top left is user info. I am logged in so you seem to be looking at something different. The closest thing I found to that is a switch at the top of the bar on the right. Which is to toggle evaluation which is really nice. IDK if that's what you mean. Or if there's something wrong with your screen.

But yes this is very much helpful as now I can actually analyze my games on Lichess. Which I was not able to before. Because the entire point from the start about Chesscom interface being far superior is because all the info is right there. There is no information or user friendly on Lichess in regards to everything you explained. Therefore, I could not for the life of me figure out how to do any of that at all. Despite trying. So even though it's really good once you know how to do it based on your explanation. It is extremely frustrating when you do not know how to do it because the interface is so poorly designed. Which is a bit of a disadvantage from Chesscom.

And still a problem I hate about Lichess is the colors. There's no way (at least that I know of) to change the colors. Here is what my board looks like on Chesscom - . I love it. So while I would much prefer to stick to Lichess completely. It would be helpful to at least know more about how to use the engine. But I would still switch over regardless. The only real problem why I use Chesscom is Lichess website really needs to be fixed. It's like a night and day difference in how everything looks graphically.

@divergentshift

> The closest thing I found to that is a switch at the top of the bar on the right. Which is to toggle evaluation which is really nice. IDK if that's what you mean.

That's what I refer to yes, the evaluation is produced by the engine so the toggle enables the engine is what I was saying.

> It is extremely frustrating when you do not know how to do it because the interface is so poorly designed

This is something that I personally (and with me many many others) disagree to but de gustibus I guess.

> There is no information or user friendly on Lichess in regards to everything you explained. Therefore, I could not for the life of me figure out how to do any of that at all.

At the start of my journey on Lichess I found it motivational and pleasant to discover features and how they work myself and also recommended others to try it, but after years of reading feedback from new users asking how something works I realized that a beginner guide to some of the most technical aspect of the site would be indeed very helpful. They should make some.

> And still a problem I hate about Lichess is the colors. There's no way (at least that I know of) to change the colors.

The site preferences, that is how you can customize the site to your likes, can be found in the window that appears when you click your username. See background, board geometry, board theme and piece set.

There is also a user made extension which many people use: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/prettier-lichess/epgnobcgnmchnhgkgpedebbmhbblfcob.

I also recommend having a tour in lichess.org/account/preferences/display, chess clock and game behavior, for a better experience in game.

> But yes this is very much helpful as now I can actually analyze my games on Lichess.

Anytime.