I think it may be time for him to quit chess.
I must admit, that I am a bit afraid it may all be due to Carlsen’s childhood experiences with bullying. He had, according to a documentary shown in norwegian television, a very tough time during his early teenage years at school, where young boys in his school bullied him. In the documentary he cried when he described that tough lifetime. I’m a bit afraid that Magnus felt Niemann bullied him when Niemann talked about him in his winner-interview after Sinquefield round 3. He might see him as a bully, like the cruel youngsters that made his young life so tough. This may tilt him to overreact on Niemann’s winner-interview where Niemann clearly was a bit disrespectful. Combined with Carlsens knowledge of his earlier online-cheating, he might have emotionally decided to «take revenge»/ not once more accept to be humiliated by bullies anymore. This is in that regard a typical psychological motivated external overcompensation to internal disturbances.
We should be careful to jugde Carlsen, and instead try to understand him. Everyone has internal reasons behind their behavior. But we should also care for Niemann. He has a cheating incident from before in online chess. But everyone needs a new chance and forgiveness. I sure hope they, Carlsen and Niemann, can solve this in «the backroom», and be friends. That would be nice.
We should be careful to jugde Carlsen, and instead try to understand him. Everyone has internal reasons behind their behavior. But we should also care for Niemann. He has a cheating incident from before in online chess. But everyone needs a new chance and forgiveness. I sure hope they, Carlsen and Niemann, can solve this in «the backroom», and be friends. That would be nice.
@Eyon-chess in the present situation, Magnus is the one behaving like a bully. He's the big boss of chess, Hans Niemann is a young player who doesn't have an established reputation yet, and with this kind of behaviour Magnus is tarnishing his reputation without providing any evidence.
@Eyon-chess said in #8:
> Wonder if Magnus has the deep details underlying the previous weeks statement from chess.com, where the following was released: «We have shared detailed evidence with him concerning our decision, including information that contradicts his statements regarding the amount and seriousness of his cheating on Chess.com", and that he knows something from that info that can not be published, where that info make him want to avoid playing more with Niemann? Just speculating.
Irrelevant. Unless Carlsen has information indicating how Niemann cheated over the board against him in St. Louis, he's potentially defaming Niemann and digging himself a civil litigation hole.
> Wonder if Magnus has the deep details underlying the previous weeks statement from chess.com, where the following was released: «We have shared detailed evidence with him concerning our decision, including information that contradicts his statements regarding the amount and seriousness of his cheating on Chess.com", and that he knows something from that info that can not be published, where that info make him want to avoid playing more with Niemann? Just speculating.
Irrelevant. Unless Carlsen has information indicating how Niemann cheated over the board against him in St. Louis, he's potentially defaming Niemann and digging himself a civil litigation hole.
Magnus isn't tarnishing Hans' reputation.
He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
@irollthenickels said in #15:
> Magnus isn't tarnishing Hans' reputation.
>
> He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
>
> In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
He could have forfeited the game. Instead he decided to resign at move 2.
> Magnus isn't tarnishing Hans' reputation.
>
> He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
>
> In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
He could have forfeited the game. Instead he decided to resign at move 2.
@irollthenickels said in #15:
> Magnus isn't tarnishing Hans' reputation.
>
> He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
>
> In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
Magnus certainly is tarnishing his reputation. What he did today may be a violation of FIDE competition rules.
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
His "intuition" is not a viable defense to the tort of defamation of character. His behavior is getting pretty close to the threshold for Niemann having a cause of action against him,
> Magnus isn't tarnishing Hans' reputation.
>
> He is merely acting on his intuition, which is his right.
>
> In the same way, if I get bad vibes or feel uncomfortable about a person, i am under no obligation to invite them into my house or leave my children in their care. I don't owe anyone any explanation.
Magnus certainly is tarnishing his reputation. What he did today may be a violation of FIDE competition rules.
11.1 The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute.
His "intuition" is not a viable defense to the tort of defamation of character. His behavior is getting pretty close to the threshold for Niemann having a cause of action against him,
You can't sue someone because they don't play chess with you.
I like the way he resigned - one normal move and then bang! He could have made it more entertaining eg 1 d4 g5 or 1 d4 e6 2 c4 Qg5!
@irollthenickels said in #18:
> You can't sue someone because they don't play chess with you.
You can't sue them but you can probably take action within the FIDE.
> You can't sue someone because they don't play chess with you.
You can't sue them but you can probably take action within the FIDE.
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