If you could only play either b4 or bxa4 in this situation, which would you play?
Please let me know your opinions.
Black to play
Please let me know your opinions.
Black to play
surely b4 , because if bxa4 , then it opens A file for rook pressure on A pawn, and I need to keep knight to defend it, besides, if it falls, rook simply invades
@aVague said in #2:
> Thanks for your input! You agree with me that stockfish thinks b4 is the best move, but seems to think bxa4 isn't too bad either.
> Thanks for your input! You agree with me that stockfish thinks b4 is the best move, but seems to think bxa4 isn't too bad either.
@tyangun said in #3:
>
I see much Thx, I ve agreed that bxa4 is also good, But only for machines , that sees every bit of position, so it's more convinient for it to hold position, despite that facts I ve mentioned about that move,if You play it , then be sure You feel safe inside, that there isn't sense of danger or unstability, where usually human holes in game appearing
>
I see much Thx, I ve agreed that bxa4 is also good, But only for machines , that sees every bit of position, so it's more convinient for it to hold position, despite that facts I ve mentioned about that move,if You play it , then be sure You feel safe inside, that there isn't sense of danger or unstability, where usually human holes in game appearing
What about ...a6!? Keeping the structure is often candidate #1? You know the pawns are best placed as a phalanx!?
I should know coz I am the Candidate Master^^
I should know coz I am the Candidate Master^^
I like it is good.
I looked at this position with out engine.
I read the board situation with my own eyes.
I came up with 5 Candidate moves:
1 - Rxe1+
2 - bxa4
3 - a6
4 - b4
5 - Bxg2
After doing my own evaluation of the position, I think the move which should be played is Bxg2 followed up with b4.
How did I come up with above evaluation?
———
The 1st move Rook takes Knight on e1 is a check.
They often say to look at wild check idea’s in a position because you never know something they can be good.
It is an exchange sacrifice, but it doesn’t seem to benefit Black to do such a move.
I looked at the move, but sort of ruled it out because I don’t see any follow up with it.
It didn’t hurt to look at the move.
———
The 2nd move B pawn taking the A pawn is a capture and that is were the tension in the position seems to be.
It is an attacking move which unleashes the tension in the position so I was drawn to it next.
I looked at the move, but I don’t like the fact White can recapture with his Rook.
White Rook is kind of a dead piece and by taking on a4. It brings the Rook to life + puts pressure on Black.
I ruled out bxa4 due to the above reasons
———
The 3rd move A6.
Sometimes, when you find yourself not wanting to attack/release tension, A good alternative is to maintain the tension.
It is more of a defensive sort of mind set so I was looking at the a6 move to give defense to my B pawn
I looked at the move, but I sort of don’t like it.
I don’t like it because it gives white the option of capturing on b5.
If white plays axb5, Black will play axb5.
The A pawn will no longer be under any danger from White Rook on the A file, but the White Rook will still be active.
No lines at the moment are open for White Rook.
It is buried and if white takes on b5, it helps open the Rook.
Black could offer a trade with Rook A8, but than pieces will be coming off the board.
I don’t want Black to exchange rooks in this position.
I want Black Rooks to be active attacking White on Kingside.
I want White Rook buried doing nothing stuck behind his own pawns on A,B, C, & D Files
———
The 4th move b4
I really like this move because it closes down Whites chances to get his Rook active.
It does open up a hole on c4 square.
White will be able to put his Knight there later on.
However, it will take several moves to make use of hole which I think will be ok.
The b4 pawn moves closes down White Queen side play for sure.
I was thinking of choosing the b4 move, but their is a famous Chess saying.
When you think you found a good move, Sit on your hands before playing it and see if you can spot even better move.
You found Good move, but can you find a Great move.
You never know till you check.
—————
*Hint* I was told to find a great move.
Try to find the “in between moves”.
I like b4, but is their in between (Intermezzo) move I can play before b4?
These moves are often captures as well.
This is how I came to my move number 5. Bxg2
Lets say Black plays b4.
White could play Bf1 trying to avoid the trade of Light Square Bishops.
Look at White King Side Pawns!
The Light Square Bishop is amaze defender of White King + Look at how active it is.
Should we let White keep this powerful piece?
I feel like Black needs to remove it.
When I look at this position, I think Black needs to close down Queen side.
Than Black needs to play f5 so both his Rooks are raining down terror on White King.
Image white taking f5 pawn with his G pawn.
Black recaptures with his Queen and is immediately attacking h3 pawn which is being defended by Whites Star Piece ( Light Square Bishop.)
If the Bishop is gone, Than the h3 pawn is all alone no defense.
It might become a weak pawn.
Yeah, I like Bxg2 as intermezzo move.
Than follow up with b4
What do you think?
I read the board situation with my own eyes.
I came up with 5 Candidate moves:
1 - Rxe1+
2 - bxa4
3 - a6
4 - b4
5 - Bxg2
After doing my own evaluation of the position, I think the move which should be played is Bxg2 followed up with b4.
How did I come up with above evaluation?
———
The 1st move Rook takes Knight on e1 is a check.
They often say to look at wild check idea’s in a position because you never know something they can be good.
It is an exchange sacrifice, but it doesn’t seem to benefit Black to do such a move.
I looked at the move, but sort of ruled it out because I don’t see any follow up with it.
It didn’t hurt to look at the move.
———
The 2nd move B pawn taking the A pawn is a capture and that is were the tension in the position seems to be.
It is an attacking move which unleashes the tension in the position so I was drawn to it next.
I looked at the move, but I don’t like the fact White can recapture with his Rook.
White Rook is kind of a dead piece and by taking on a4. It brings the Rook to life + puts pressure on Black.
I ruled out bxa4 due to the above reasons
———
The 3rd move A6.
Sometimes, when you find yourself not wanting to attack/release tension, A good alternative is to maintain the tension.
It is more of a defensive sort of mind set so I was looking at the a6 move to give defense to my B pawn
I looked at the move, but I sort of don’t like it.
I don’t like it because it gives white the option of capturing on b5.
If white plays axb5, Black will play axb5.
The A pawn will no longer be under any danger from White Rook on the A file, but the White Rook will still be active.
No lines at the moment are open for White Rook.
It is buried and if white takes on b5, it helps open the Rook.
Black could offer a trade with Rook A8, but than pieces will be coming off the board.
I don’t want Black to exchange rooks in this position.
I want Black Rooks to be active attacking White on Kingside.
I want White Rook buried doing nothing stuck behind his own pawns on A,B, C, & D Files
———
The 4th move b4
I really like this move because it closes down Whites chances to get his Rook active.
It does open up a hole on c4 square.
White will be able to put his Knight there later on.
However, it will take several moves to make use of hole which I think will be ok.
The b4 pawn moves closes down White Queen side play for sure.
I was thinking of choosing the b4 move, but their is a famous Chess saying.
When you think you found a good move, Sit on your hands before playing it and see if you can spot even better move.
You found Good move, but can you find a Great move.
You never know till you check.
—————
*Hint* I was told to find a great move.
Try to find the “in between moves”.
I like b4, but is their in between (Intermezzo) move I can play before b4?
These moves are often captures as well.
This is how I came to my move number 5. Bxg2
Lets say Black plays b4.
White could play Bf1 trying to avoid the trade of Light Square Bishops.
Look at White King Side Pawns!
The Light Square Bishop is amaze defender of White King + Look at how active it is.
Should we let White keep this powerful piece?
I feel like Black needs to remove it.
When I look at this position, I think Black needs to close down Queen side.
Than Black needs to play f5 so both his Rooks are raining down terror on White King.
Image white taking f5 pawn with his G pawn.
Black recaptures with his Queen and is immediately attacking h3 pawn which is being defended by Whites Star Piece ( Light Square Bishop.)
If the Bishop is gone, Than the h3 pawn is all alone no defense.
It might become a weak pawn.
Yeah, I like Bxg2 as intermezzo move.
Than follow up with b4
What do you think?
@X_Player_J_X said in #7:
> I looked at this position with out engine.
> I read the board situation with my own eyes.
>
> I came up with 5 Candidate moves:
> 1 - Rxe1+
> 2 - bxa4
> 3 - a6
> 4 - b4
> 5 - Bxg2
>
> After doing my own evaluation of the position, I think the move which should be played is Bxg2 followed up with b4.
> How did I come up with above evaluation?
>
> ———
>
> The 1st move Rook takes Knight on e1 is a check.
> They often say to look at wild check idea’s in a position because you never know something they can be good.
>
> It is an exchange sacrifice, but it doesn’t seem to benefit Black to do such a move.
> I looked at the move, but sort of ruled it out because I don’t see any follow up with it.
> It didn’t hurt to look at the move.
>
> ———
>
> The 2nd move B pawn taking the A pawn is a capture and that is were the tension in the position seems to be.
> It is an attacking move which unleashes the tension in the position so I was drawn to it next.
>
> I looked at the move, but I don’t like the fact White can recapture with his Rook.
> White Rook is kind of a dead piece and by taking on a4. It brings the Rook to life + puts pressure on Black.
> I ruled out bxa4 due to the above reasons
>
> ———
>
> The 3rd move A6.
> Sometimes, when you find yourself not wanting to attack/release tension, A good alternative is to maintain the tension.
> It is more of a defensive sort of mind set so I was looking at the a6 move to give defense to my B pawn
>
> I looked at the move, but I sort of don’t like it.
> I don’t like it because it gives white the option of capturing on b5.
> If white plays axb5, Black will play axb5.
>
> The A pawn will no longer be under any danger from White Rook on the A file, but the White Rook will still be active.
> No lines at the moment are open for White Rook.
> It is buried and if white takes on b5, it helps open the Rook.
>
> Black could offer a trade with Rook A8, but than pieces will be coming off the board.
> I don’t want Black to exchange rooks in this position.
>
> I want Black Rooks to be active attacking White on Kingside.
> I want White Rook buried doing nothing stuck behind his own pawns on A,B, C, & D Files
>
> ———
>
> The 4th move b4
> I really like this move because it closes down Whites chances to get his Rook active.
>
> It does open up a hole on c4 square.
> White will be able to put his Knight there later on.
>
> However, it will take several moves to make use of hole which I think will be ok.
> The b4 pawn moves closes down White Queen side play for sure.
>
> I was thinking of choosing the b4 move, but their is a famous Chess saying.
> When you think you found a good move, Sit on your hands before playing it and see if you can spot even better move.
>
> You found Good move, but can you find a Great move.
> You never know till you check.
>
> —————
>
> *Hint* I was told to find a great move.
> Try to find the “in between moves”.
>
> I like b4, but is their in between (Intermezzo) move I can play before b4?
> These moves are often captures as well.
> This is how I came to my move number 5. Bxg2
>
> Lets say Black plays b4.
> White could play Bf1 trying to avoid the trade of Light Square Bishops.
>
> Look at White King Side Pawns!
> The Light Square Bishop is amaze defender of White King + Look at how active it is.
>
> Should we let White keep this powerful piece?
> I feel like Black needs to remove it.
>
> When I look at this position, I think Black needs to close down Queen side.
> Than Black needs to play f5 so both his Rooks are raining down terror on White King.
>
> Image white taking f5 pawn with his G pawn.
> Black recaptures with his Queen and is immediately attacking h3 pawn which is being defended by Whites Star Piece ( Light Square Bishop.)
>
> If the Bishop is gone, Than the h3 pawn is all alone no defense.
> It might become a weak pawn.
>
> Yeah, I like Bxg2 as intermezzo move.
> Than follow up with b4
>
> What do you think?
I appreciate your thoughtful input. I certainly should have checked Bxg2 as well.
> I looked at this position with out engine.
> I read the board situation with my own eyes.
>
> I came up with 5 Candidate moves:
> 1 - Rxe1+
> 2 - bxa4
> 3 - a6
> 4 - b4
> 5 - Bxg2
>
> After doing my own evaluation of the position, I think the move which should be played is Bxg2 followed up with b4.
> How did I come up with above evaluation?
>
> ———
>
> The 1st move Rook takes Knight on e1 is a check.
> They often say to look at wild check idea’s in a position because you never know something they can be good.
>
> It is an exchange sacrifice, but it doesn’t seem to benefit Black to do such a move.
> I looked at the move, but sort of ruled it out because I don’t see any follow up with it.
> It didn’t hurt to look at the move.
>
> ———
>
> The 2nd move B pawn taking the A pawn is a capture and that is were the tension in the position seems to be.
> It is an attacking move which unleashes the tension in the position so I was drawn to it next.
>
> I looked at the move, but I don’t like the fact White can recapture with his Rook.
> White Rook is kind of a dead piece and by taking on a4. It brings the Rook to life + puts pressure on Black.
> I ruled out bxa4 due to the above reasons
>
> ———
>
> The 3rd move A6.
> Sometimes, when you find yourself not wanting to attack/release tension, A good alternative is to maintain the tension.
> It is more of a defensive sort of mind set so I was looking at the a6 move to give defense to my B pawn
>
> I looked at the move, but I sort of don’t like it.
> I don’t like it because it gives white the option of capturing on b5.
> If white plays axb5, Black will play axb5.
>
> The A pawn will no longer be under any danger from White Rook on the A file, but the White Rook will still be active.
> No lines at the moment are open for White Rook.
> It is buried and if white takes on b5, it helps open the Rook.
>
> Black could offer a trade with Rook A8, but than pieces will be coming off the board.
> I don’t want Black to exchange rooks in this position.
>
> I want Black Rooks to be active attacking White on Kingside.
> I want White Rook buried doing nothing stuck behind his own pawns on A,B, C, & D Files
>
> ———
>
> The 4th move b4
> I really like this move because it closes down Whites chances to get his Rook active.
>
> It does open up a hole on c4 square.
> White will be able to put his Knight there later on.
>
> However, it will take several moves to make use of hole which I think will be ok.
> The b4 pawn moves closes down White Queen side play for sure.
>
> I was thinking of choosing the b4 move, but their is a famous Chess saying.
> When you think you found a good move, Sit on your hands before playing it and see if you can spot even better move.
>
> You found Good move, but can you find a Great move.
> You never know till you check.
>
> —————
>
> *Hint* I was told to find a great move.
> Try to find the “in between moves”.
>
> I like b4, but is their in between (Intermezzo) move I can play before b4?
> These moves are often captures as well.
> This is how I came to my move number 5. Bxg2
>
> Lets say Black plays b4.
> White could play Bf1 trying to avoid the trade of Light Square Bishops.
>
> Look at White King Side Pawns!
> The Light Square Bishop is amaze defender of White King + Look at how active it is.
>
> Should we let White keep this powerful piece?
> I feel like Black needs to remove it.
>
> When I look at this position, I think Black needs to close down Queen side.
> Than Black needs to play f5 so both his Rooks are raining down terror on White King.
>
> Image white taking f5 pawn with his G pawn.
> Black recaptures with his Queen and is immediately attacking h3 pawn which is being defended by Whites Star Piece ( Light Square Bishop.)
>
> If the Bishop is gone, Than the h3 pawn is all alone no defense.
> It might become a weak pawn.
>
> Yeah, I like Bxg2 as intermezzo move.
> Than follow up with b4
>
> What do you think?
I appreciate your thoughtful input. I certainly should have checked Bxg2 as well.