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1e4+0.4c6+0.42d4+0.4d5+0.33e5+0.3Bf5+0.54h4+0.3h5+0.25Bg5−0.1Qb6−0.36Bd3−0.7Bxd3?!0.0Inaccuracy. Qxd4 was best.6...Qxd47.Nf3Qg4[...]7Qxd3+0.2Qxb2?+1.6Mistake. Qa6 was best.7...Qa68.Qh3e6[...]8e6+1.8fxe6?+3.3Mistake. f6 was best.8...f69.Nf39Nf3+3.3Nf6+3.510O-O+3.6Qxa1+3.511Qb3+3.6b6?!+5.2Inaccuracy. Nbd7 was best.11...Nbd712.Nbd2Qxf1+[...]12Nbd2+4.7Qxf1++4.513Kxf1+4.3Nbd7?!+5.7Inaccuracy. Ng4 was best.13...Ng414.Qd3a5[...]14Qa4+5.5c5?!+7.6Inaccuracy. Rc8 was best.14...Rc815.Qxa7g6[...]15dxc5+7.2bxc5+7.616Ne5+7.8Rd8+8.317Ndf3+6.8Ne4+9.618Qc6+9.6c4?#6Checkmate is now unavoidable. Nd6 was best.18...Nd619.Nxd7Kf7[...]19Qxe6#5Nxe5#520Nxe5#4Rd6#321Qc8+#2Rd8#222Qc6+#1Rd7#123Qxd7#
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[Event "Rated classical game"] [Site "https://lichess.org/kFmABWkq"] [Date "2023.04.14"] [White "JustChillJoe"] [Black "Tsscfttsos"] [Result "1-0"] [GameId "kFmABWkq"] [UTCDate "2023.04.14"] [UTCTime "22:02:20"] [WhiteElo "1781"] [BlackElo "1912"] [WhiteRatingDiff "+23"] [BlackRatingDiff "-13"] [Variant "Standard"] [TimeControl "2700+45"] [ECO "B12"] [Opening "Caro-Kann Defense: Advance Variation, Tal Variation"] [Termination "Normal"] [Annotator "lichess.org"] 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. h4 { B12 Caro-Kann Defense: Advance Variation, Tal Variation } h5 5. Bg5 Qb6 6. Bd3 Bxd3?! { (-0.67 → 0.00) Inaccuracy. Qxd4 was best. } (6... Qxd4 7. Nf3 Qg4 8. Bxf5 Qxf5 9. c4 Qe4+ 10. Be3 e6 11. Nbd2) 7. Qxd3 Qxb2? { (0.21 → 1.58) Mistake. Qa6 was best. } (7... Qa6 8. Qh3 e6 9. Nc3 Nd7 10. Nge2 Ne7 11. O-O Nf5 12. Rfd1) 8. e6 fxe6? { (1.77 → 3.27) Mistake. f6 was best. } (8... f6 9. Nf3) 9. Nf3 Nf6 10. O-O Qxa1 11. Qb3 b6?! { (3.63 → 5.15) Inaccuracy. Nbd7 was best. } (11... Nbd7 12. Nbd2 Qxf1+ 13. Kxf1 O-O-O 14. Qa3 Kb8 15. Bf4+ Ka8 16. Ng5 Rc8 17. Nxe6 g6 18. Nc7+) 12. Nbd2 Qxf1+ 13. Kxf1 Nbd7?! { (4.29 → 5.73) Inaccuracy. Ng4 was best. } (13... Ng4 14. Qd3 a5 15. c4 Kd7 16. Qb1 Kc7 17. Bf4+ Kb7 18. Ng5 Rh6 19. Nh7 Nd7 20. Bxh6) 14. Qa4 c5?! { (5.48 → 7.58) Inaccuracy. Rc8 was best. } (14... Rc8 15. Qxa7 g6 16. Qb7 Kd8 17. Bf4 Bh6 18. Bxh6 Rb8 19. Qa7 Rxh6 20. Ne5 Kc8 21. Nxc6) 15. dxc5 bxc5 16. Ne5 Rd8 17. Ndf3 Ne4 18. Qc6 c4? { (9.57 → Mate in 6) Checkmate is now unavoidable. Nd6 was best. } (18... Nd6 19. Nxd7 Kf7 20. Qc7 Re8 21. Nde5+ Kg8 22. Qd7 Rh6 23. Bxh6 gxh6 24. Qxe6+ Kh7 25. Qg6+) 19. Qxe6 Nxe5 20. Nxe5 Rd6 21. Qc8+ Rd8 22. Qc6+ Rd7 23. Qxd7# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0
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  1. fulmarsky go TSSCFTTSOS! supporting you, you can do to this! good chess!
  2. JustChillJoe (2...d5) I prepared a bit as I saw he plays this
  3. reddevil906 gl joe!
  4. fulmarsky (5.Bg5) wow this has similarities to sebs can earlier... that "French advance center pawn formation and bishop on g5, odd!
  5. fulmarsky (5.Bg5) sebs game**
  6. gavalanche20 I was about to say the same haha
  7. gavalanche20 Same match too, top board
  8. fulmarsky (5.Bg5) absolutely, interesting!!
  9. JustChillJoe (5.Bg5) I didnt prep a whole bunch. Just tried refreshing myself real quick on this line.
  10. JustChillJoe (5.Bg5) last game we went e4 c5
  11. TBest this is a hard line to prep quick :D
  12. TBest is JustChillJoe awere of the other last game?
  13. TBest Pretty sure Tsscfttsos is
  14. SuspendedSeventh Woo!
  15. gavalanche20 Tbest didn’t you say Qb2 was good for White already
  16. fulmarsky (8.e6) how interesting! will Qb3 happen after ...Qxa1 , let's hope (this opening i knew nothing about before today)
  17. fulmarsky (8.e6) ooh oops
  18. TBest well, yes, but not like easy good. Sf does need some depth to give advantage iirc
  19. fulmarsky (8.e6) I'm supporting Black aren't I!
  20. fulmarsky (8.e6) ok let's hope Qb3 doesn't happen after ...Qxa1
  21. gavalanche20 I know Qa1 is quite risky but don’t know where Black’s improvement was supposed to be
  22. TBest I used to like nf3 instead of e6, since here black can get out with qxd4 which i think is easier to play
  23. TBest but theese guys really do seem to favor e6
  24. TBest think the lichess master db had 4 e6 games and 2 nf3 or something
  25. SuspendedSeventh Doesn't Qxe4 just blunders queen
  26. TBest white plays qb3
  27. SuspendedSeventh Ah yeah thought you meant immediately
  28. TBest anyway, the qxa1 is not forced. so you could still bail I think and be fine
  29. SuspendedSeventh Ah crap I don't like accepting the piece sac
  30. fulmarsky (8...fxe6) i'm nervous for black.. oh dear.....
  31. TBest you would hope white would be ready for fxe6 if they preped it
  32. SuspendedSeventh I'm hoping otherwise :)
  33. TBest anyway, a major argument for why this qxb2 line is good for white, is that it scores really well. like 50 % win
  34. SuspendedSeventh Master level? What's the sample size on that?
  35. TBest with sf, you could argue that win % is bigger then it should be, but white is probably usually prepered in this line I guess
  36. TBest both master and lichess 2500+
  37. TBest i never use less then 2500 on lichess, since then my own openings are incuded :D and they are not good
  38. val1313 (8...fxe6) funny, same line we played earlier
  39. val1313 (8...fxe6) Go Joe !
  40. TBest white thinking is a pretty bad sign tbh, you play the wrong move and the rook is lost
  41. TBest we got that demonstrated earlier ^^
  42. val1313 (8...fxe6) yep
  43. SuspendedSeventh Isn't the right move... Qb3? Or was it Nf3?
  44. SuspendedSeventh I don't play the early Bg5 but prolly should
  45. val1313 (8...fxe6) NF3
  46. val1313 (8...fxe6) QB3 after Qxa1
  47. TBest qb3 is if black takes the rook
  48. TBest but, like qg6 here is wrong - but maybe tempting
  49. val1313 (8...fxe6) it works better with NF3
  50. SuspendedSeventh Well yeah because Qg6+ Kd8
  51. val1313 (9.Nf3) so here taking the rook is very bad (as I didn't know few hours ago)
  52. SuspendedSeventh :(
  53. JustChillJoe (9.Nf3) i think i messed up somewhere with this tal variation.
  54. SuspendedSeventh Yeah it's such a sharp line
  55. fake_switch (9.Nf3) gooooo joe!!!
  56. SuspendedSeventh Assuming we don't see Qxa1, there's still def some game to play
  57. Grizzzly1000 what would happen now after 9... Qxa1?
  58. val1313 (9.Nf3) Qb3
  59. val1313 (9.Nf3) and blacks only devlopped piece is kind of stucked
  60. Grizzzly1000 i see, and its not possible to get the queen out again
  61. TBest it's bassically already won for white now
  62. TBest but you still need to play well for a bit
  63. SuspendedSeventh It's not won yet, is it?
  64. TBest it kinda is actually
  65. fulmarsky (9.Nf3) ooh who's winning.. i'm not sure........ oh dear....
  66. SuspendedSeventh huh wtf
  67. TBest i was hoping white would have gone qc3 or qg6
  68. TBest which you might do if you are unfamiiliar
  69. fulmarsky (9.Nf3) i want Black to win.....
  70. Grizzzly1000 take a look at following variation: 9... Qxa1 10. Qb3 Nd7
  71. SuspendedSeventh Not to psychoanalyze, but white still doesn't feel too comfortable it seems
  72. Grizzzly1000 i am not sure what happens then... -
  73. JustChillJoe (9.Nf3) do i give this up and go Qc3 Qxc3 Nxc3 and take advantage of bad p structure?
  74. TBest qc3 would be a blessing for black
  75. Grizzzly1000 11. Qxb7 looks not good because of Rb8 then
  76. SuspendedSeventh Blacks queen is ultimately trapped after that grizzly, after 0-0 and eventual discovered attack on the queen
  77. Grizzzly1000 yes, i saw that - but they are two rooks for the queen gone then
  78. TBest you also can't really get the bishop and rook out and black king is weak
  79. fulmarsky (9...Nf6) after ...Qxa1 Qb3 would be mean of white to entombed the BQ on a1
  80. JustChillJoe (10...Qxa1) Nc3 Na4 Nc5 Ne6 possible?
  81. fulmarsky (10...Qxa1) ooh my goodness ...Qxa1 oh dear Qb3 now to entomb Qa1 would be so mean
  82. fulmarsky (11.Qb3) i am afraid that white may play c3 Ne1 and Nc2 to get the Qa1.... this is tricky for black......
  83. SuspendedSeventh Damnit
  84. Grizzzly1000 maybe Nf6 was wrong for black...
  85. Grizzzly1000 tried to analyse following: 9... Qxa1 10. Qb3 Nd7 11.0-0 c5
  86. Grizzzly1000 now the queen is really trapped... - Bc1 and Bb2 following
  87. fulmarsky (11...b6) it just seems so mean Bc1 and Bb2 and the BQ is just stuck there... it's horrible
  88. SuspendedSeventh Qxf1 and pray ig
  89. Grizzzly1000 i would say this was not best for white
  90. fulmarsky (13.Kxf1) Nd2 oh!?
  91. TBest now black just need to teach the rooks and bishop to jump
  92. TBest and there is counterplay
  93. fulmarsky (13...Nbd7) oh goog point, those Rooks need to be released into this game, and stop the WQ dominating....
  94. SuspendedSeventh Black seems to need to find e5 to have any hope at all
  95. TBest i mean, it IS possible, it just takes like 10 -15 moves to get it all out
  96. TBest and usually your opponent won't give you that much free time
  97. SuspendedSeventh It's not too many to at least threaten, maybe like Ng4?
  98. fulmarsky (13...Nbd7) very imbalanced Q versus 2R.... it's going to be interesting......
  99. fulmarsky (13...Nbd7) although otherwise it is 2xN DSBs
  100. TBest even after qa4 it's really hard to see a defense
  101. TBest c5 sucks due to the pin, b5 is pain after qa6 and rc8 just hangs a pawn...
  102. TBest like c5 ne5 rd8 ndf3 (qc6 qe6 qf7) or something
  103. fulmarsky (16.Ne5) annoying pressure by White with that Ne5
  104. TBest here I like rd8 ng6 rg8 nf3- ne5 too
  105. TBest black is kinda close to zugzwang
  106. SuspendedSeventh Now Qxa7 I can only assume?
  107. TBest yes, probably fine, but do you need to pawn?
  108. TBest just focus on clamping down imo
  109. val1313 Drop the knight
  110. val1313 On e5
  111. reddevil906 E5 would be great. Good idea.
  112. JustChillJoe (16...Rd8) do i have time for f3?
  113. JustChillJoe (16...Rd8) I meant to go Nb3 - Nc5 but Nb3 is met with Ne4
  114. JustChillJoe (16...Rd8) Qc6 - Qxe6 and threat mate on Nf7
  115. val1313 If qxe6 there in nxe5
  116. gavalanche20 Oh true what does Black do there?
  117. gavalanche20 Maybe need the knight on f3 first I guess
  118. TBest yeah, that's why I suggessted nf3 in my earlier lines :)
  119. TBest but the night on c5 idea works too I think
  120. JustChillJoe (17.Ndf3) i think this is still winning
  121. val1313 I wonder about c4 ideas with qc2 qg6
  122. JustChillJoe (17.Ndf3) Ne4 Qd6 Nxg5 hxg5 then Qxe6
  123. val1313 If ne4 there is nxd7 ?
  124. val1313 With ne5 coming next
  125. fulmarsky (17.Ndf3) this is tense.... can Black uncramp his pieces .........
  126. fulmarsky (17.Ndf3) it does all seem a bit zugzwangy for Black, as TBest said ealier... ouch.......
  127. val1313 In french this idea of e6 by white in the caro kann is called "attaque de nuit" "nocturn attack" kind of poetic.
  128. val1313 Is there a name for it in english ?
  129. val1313 Here just nxd7 ?
  130. TBest not that I am awere of
  131. TBest yeah nxd7 is a win here
  132. TBest maybe still this was the best try through, kinda not many other traps to go for anyway
  133. val1313 Hard to play with king in rhe center and minus a rook and a bishop
  134. JustChillJoe (18.Qc6) oops. could have taken the N right?
  135. JustChillJoe (18.Qc6) dangit. i hope this doesnt cost me
  136. JustChillJoe (18.Qc6) wait that was mate?
  137. JustChillJoe (18.Qc6) moved too quickly
  138. val1313 Missed opportunity, but still hard to find a move for black
  139. TBest i mean, just qxe6 is really hard to defend
  140. TBest so I would try nxg5 nxg5 rh6 or hope that somehow is what get's played
  141. TBest but like, it's not a forced line, white can do whatevere to win
  142. TBest don't look like bishops and rooks have learned to jump
  143. val1313 (18...c4) not a fun game for them
  144. fulmarsky (18...c4) they're all stuck :(
  145. val1313 (18...c4) at least they are in position for the next one
  146. TBest yes, I am sure our team will pick up 4 wins tommorow :)
  147. LittlePawnFriends oh i play this!
  148. LittlePawnFriends yeah allowing e6 is already objectively lost afaik
  149. fulmarsky (20...Rd6) oh dear Qc8+ oh no
  150. val1313 (21...Rd8) yep
  151. Chewbacca_Defense gg
  152. Ivory12 ggwp
  153. fake_switch Ggs!
  154. fulmarsky gg
  155. reddevil906 Ggs all!
  156. TBest i think you need f6 after e6
  157. TBest as the only good reply
  158. LittlePawnFriends no they all lose
  159. LittlePawnFriends you cant go into Qxb2
  160. val1313 gg
  161. TBest ah, so Just need higher depth on sf?
  162. LittlePawnFriends yes :)
  163. LittlePawnFriends Qxd4 after Bd3 is best try for advantage iirc
  164. TBest at least f6 scores ok in lichess DB through
  165. TBest 47% win for both
  166. gavalanche20 Oh wow White was basically fine the whole time?
  167. TBest more then fine, winning
  168. LittlePawnFriends a more interesting attempt for Qxb2 imo is Qxd4 Nf3 Qxb2 Bxf5
  169. TBest yeah, I meantined that I prefered nf3 earlier in the chat
  170. TBest maybe it was even in the other game
  171. TBest we had this line two games in a row
  172. LittlePawnFriends such beautiful engine prep <3
  173. TBest since with nf3 instead of e6, you don't have to know qxd4
  174. LittlePawnFriends which line do you mean?
  175. LittlePawnFriends like 8.Nf3?
  176. TBest yes, it's what I had in my "memory" book before todays games
  177. TBest not that I play this to be clear
  178. TBest clearly I should start :P just need opponents to take on b2 now
  179. LittlePawnFriends my prep goes Qxb2 e6 Qxa1 Qb3 Qxd4 Be3 filler queen move Qxb7 where we will win the knight and be up a piece in an endgame
  180. TBest my prep as black goes "never take a pawn on b2, it's never free. Even in poisen pawn sicillian, where you can do it"
  181. LittlePawnFriends f6 gets a little weird but as long as you remember to go insane with Nf3 fg O-O g4 Nbd2 youre fine
  182. LittlePawnFriends yeah taking on b2 scary :(
  183. LittlePawnFriends but in this case its reaaally hard to see why if youve never seen the position before