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How far can one get without coaches?

You can reach 2200 level online but fide reality just 1800, to achieve master level, you'll need a pro coach
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I never had a coach. But all the coaches out there probably don't want you to know that... ;)
Having a coach can greatly benefit a player's growth and improvement in chess, regardless of their current rating or level of skill. While it's certainly possible to improve on one's own, a coach can provide valuable insights and perspectives that can help accelerate the learning process.

In particular, if you're struggling with rapid, blitz, and bullet games, a coach can help identify specific areas that need improvement and provide tailored training exercises and techniques to help you overcome these challenges. This type of focused and structured guidance can be especially valuable in fast-paced games where mistakes can quickly add up and lead to a loss.

Moreover, the longer you wait to seek a coach's guidance, the greater the risk of developing bad habits that may be difficult to overcome later on. A coach can help you catch these habits early on and provide the guidance you need to correct them before they become ingrained.

Finally, it's important to keep in mind that my answer might be slightly biased because I'm an active coach.

In conclusion, if you're serious about improving your chess and reaching your goals, seeking the guidance of a coach as soon as possible is a wise decision both for your sake and for the finances of your future coach ;) Regards Richard
Bobby never had a coach . He studied everything devoured everything & even learned Russian to have access to articles magazines Robert J Fischer became World Chess Champion . Times have changed & we all have better access to so much more Study Material so yes you... "can' ... go far' however you really have to Study Play Play Study & work hard at it . Or make learning fun to You @RudraveerM Try going over games as maybe you like to counterattack or play outstanding Endings , You are rated under 800 in Blitz & 1300 Rapid so you need to START learning by going through Chess Book & Chess Videos @RudraveerM
@RudraveerM said in #1:
> I seem to be improving in classical but whenever there is a time limit like in rapid blitz and bullet I am doing badly.
> I want to improve in chess as much as I can without getting a coach. After what rating will it be impossible to improve without a coach? (By coach I dont mean on lichess, I mean physical or online classes by clubs based in my city)

My belief is that you can technically get as far with coaches as without. However, coaches streamline the process; they know which information you need and when.

I started playing chess 11 years ago. I haven't played for 11 years solid; it's been on and off. But what took me a long time is to know what to study.

If I google 'how to get better at chess,' pretty much every way to learn chess imaginable comes up. And as someone who doesn't come from a chess playing background and hasn't hired coaches (except for maybe 5-6 lessons just to try), it was really difficult to filter through the information I needed.

This problem is massively exacerbated by the amount of youtubers, streamers, etc., who make exciting claims or clickbait content videos for views. It makes the learning process much harder.

Which is why, ultimately, the people who will be most reliable for telling you what you need to know are either a coach, a strong chess-playing family member or friend, since usually, if they have some good experience, they will be telling you exactly what you need to know and not just trying to lure you in for views by any means necessary.

I still struggle to figure out exactly what I need to work on, but I do feel more comfortable now with knowing what I need to study. But sadly, I'm not 13 years old anymore (when I started playing chess), so now my brain elasticity has decreased.

My advice would be this, and this is now my approach to chess: when you play an OTB game, study your game. Look at where you went wrong; you need to be aware of your mistakes.

Whatever you did in your game, which was a mistake, for example, you lost a rook endgame, then before your next OTB game study rook endgames. If you went wrong tactically or just hung a piece, then solve 100 tactics trainer puzzles per piece you hang/tactic you missed. If you went wrong in the opening, then study the opening you played and figure out how to play it better. If you lost because you didn't know what to do, ask yourself which stage of the game didn't you know what to do? If it's middle game, then study a middle games course, etc.

The idea is that after each game, you study the source of exactly where you're going wrong before your next OTB game. So you don't waste your time studying stuff you already know, and you only study the stuff that you don't know/need a refresher on. It will also be easier to remember what you're studying if it's based on your game you've just lost.

If you don't play OTB, figure something else out. Maybe play some rapid or classical games on lichess. From those games, figure out how and why you lost, then you have your answer to what you need to study to improve.

This clarity of advice is something I wish I could give my 13-year-old self.
It took me less than 2 years to get to my current level on lichess without a coach.
Nonetheless, a coach is extremely helpful in guiding you towards the right path. Sometimes your weaknesses may be hidden, as I've uncovered with a few coaches my weakness of trading pieces badly. By targeting this specific area, I managed to improve my otb a few so rating points.
It really depends, I'd say you should get a coach WHEN YOU BEGIN TO PLATEAU
Otherwise I would continue to self-train and see how far I can get.

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