King, queen and knight versus king, rook, bishop and knight is supposedly pretty hard: lichess.org/analysis/8/3r4/8/6n1/5k2/1b6/3K3N/7Q_w_-_-_0_1. More than 500 moves until the first capture with perfect play (see the tablebase).
@Sacmaniac said in #10:
> @Shamendra_07 I have never had to mate with a Knight and Bishop but I have sacked material in order to get the opponent to attempt it, which btw, is quite fun. So "hate" would be too strong a word for this mate because I have no hard feelings against it.
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> On the other hand Rook+King vs lone King is a pleasure and usually takes a dozen or so moves from any position.
Interesting use of knowledge, testing the opponent rather than yourself, might even end up learning it by playing people who can do it on the spot. or see them waste time.... I also have things I like to see the opponent work out for me.... too many.
> @Shamendra_07 I have never had to mate with a Knight and Bishop but I have sacked material in order to get the opponent to attempt it, which btw, is quite fun. So "hate" would be too strong a word for this mate because I have no hard feelings against it.
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> On the other hand Rook+King vs lone King is a pleasure and usually takes a dozen or so moves from any position.
Interesting use of knowledge, testing the opponent rather than yourself, might even end up learning it by playing people who can do it on the spot. or see them waste time.... I also have things I like to see the opponent work out for me.... too many.
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@Haymarket said in #13:
> How is opposition slower than corner? How do you get the king to the corner if not by opposition?
With the rook, you can quickly shave files and columns with the aid of the king. You do use opposition as well, but you do limit the king to 1/4 of the board or less. and in around 6-9 moves, the opposite king just has 1 column or file, depending on orientation, to move
If you go only for opposition it means that the opposite king will move to one edge of the board (say the a column), then you have to follow it with your king until you reach opposition on the b file, check him, he will run now to the h column, you have to chase it until the g column, when he lands on opposition, you check, rinse and repeat.
Just check the 2 studies that are posted on page 1, the first is the efficient way, towards the end of it. The other one shows the slow approach. But both work, though the slower approach works better in time trouble as you dont risk losing the rook and you can premove.
> How is opposition slower than corner? How do you get the king to the corner if not by opposition?
With the rook, you can quickly shave files and columns with the aid of the king. You do use opposition as well, but you do limit the king to 1/4 of the board or less. and in around 6-9 moves, the opposite king just has 1 column or file, depending on orientation, to move
If you go only for opposition it means that the opposite king will move to one edge of the board (say the a column), then you have to follow it with your king until you reach opposition on the b file, check him, he will run now to the h column, you have to chase it until the g column, when he lands on opposition, you check, rinse and repeat.
Just check the 2 studies that are posted on page 1, the first is the efficient way, towards the end of it. The other one shows the slow approach. But both work, though the slower approach works better in time trouble as you dont risk losing the rook and you can premove.
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mines is bishop and knight vs king
and 2 knight vs king and pawn
@Haymarket said in #13:
> How is opposition slower than corner? How do you get the king to the corner if not by opposition?
The above game is what I mean by the opposition checkmate, starting from move 10.
This game shows the king being cornered.
> How is opposition slower than corner? How do you get the king to the corner if not by opposition?
The above game is what I mean by the opposition checkmate, starting from move 10.
This game shows the king being cornered.
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@Shamendra_07 said in #1:
> Mine is King and rook mate which I'm really struggling to figure out.
> What is your ending that you hate most?
Two knights and one pawn checkmate, rook and pawn endgame.
> Mine is King and rook mate which I'm really struggling to figure out.
> What is your ending that you hate most?
Two knights and one pawn checkmate, rook and pawn endgame.
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