Claiming A Draw by Three-Time Rep' Over The Board is a process ... Online it can be automatic
@Toscani said in #1:
> With on-line chess, we are actually able to break at least 3 OTB chess rules:
> 1. Someone else is pressing our clock;
> 2. We can take back a move and not be forced to play that piece touched;
> 3. We can use two hands.
No idea why somebody would dislike this, because you are totally correct. Now I don't really mind that I don't have to press the clock online, actually it's really comfortable this way - however having to press a button online too, would have certainly prepared me better for actual tournament play. But what is next? Writing the notation down too every game? Hmm... sounds pretty exhausting when you play 10.000 games online when you ask me. What are your thoughts on this? Isn't this part of the rules aswell?
> With on-line chess, we are actually able to break at least 3 OTB chess rules:
> 1. Someone else is pressing our clock;
> 2. We can take back a move and not be forced to play that piece touched;
> 3. We can use two hands.
No idea why somebody would dislike this, because you are totally correct. Now I don't really mind that I don't have to press the clock online, actually it's really comfortable this way - however having to press a button online too, would have certainly prepared me better for actual tournament play. But what is next? Writing the notation down too every game? Hmm... sounds pretty exhausting when you play 10.000 games online when you ask me. What are your thoughts on this? Isn't this part of the rules aswell?
@Toscani said in #9:
> Are there more OTB chess rules that are not applied on-line? It helps reading the posts.
Black generally starts whites clock to commence the game. That’s a thing that doesn’t happen online.
> Are there more OTB chess rules that are not applied on-line? It helps reading the posts.
Black generally starts whites clock to commence the game. That’s a thing that doesn’t happen online.
The last time anyone had to say "J'adoube" because their pieces were misaligned in online play?
Chess online is not the same thing as OTB. Yet we try to use the chess rules like it was OTB. I guess it's in hope of a future with tablets OTB. Example: A Lichess meet where everyone has an electronic device like a laptop, a tablet or a cell phone to play a tournament together. The tournament would be played without us moving from chair to chair. Friends could remain grouped together, without even having to face the opponent. Ideally for the meet, it would be nice that the winner of the tournament review a game in public. Letting them explain how they won the tournament. It could become a great Lichess meet without physical chess pieces, which would start a new era for Lichess OTB meets. Obvious those same dubious rules mentioned in the past posts would not apply in the OTB Tablet Meet.
Seems like many OTB chess rules only exist because we are facing our opponents.
Seems like many OTB chess rules only exist because we are facing our opponents.
A few months ago I played an online tournament where I had to give up because I blundered my queen by mouseslip. So online chess has its disadvantages as advantages. How these disadvantages can be justified in a fair way is a difficult question
Online, if you use move confirmation; or tentatively hover pieces somewhere before putting them back; or draw arrows and circles on the board to plan your moves - then your opponent doesn't see all of these shenanigans, they only appear on your own screen.
If you would do this kind of stuff OTB, it would be hugely distracting for the opponent. In addition players would start to try psychological tricks, such as moving the queen somewhere, then pretending to be shocked and moving it back. So some of the OTB rules are also to ensure gameplay proceeds in an orderly fashion without distractions.
That said,I'd agree it is a slightly different game online, and you could say that calculation is a bit easier online, due two touch-move not being enforced and also due to inbuilt calculation aids (the circles and arrows).
If you would do this kind of stuff OTB, it would be hugely distracting for the opponent. In addition players would start to try psychological tricks, such as moving the queen somewhere, then pretending to be shocked and moving it back. So some of the OTB rules are also to ensure gameplay proceeds in an orderly fashion without distractions.
That said,I'd agree it is a slightly different game online, and you could say that calculation is a bit easier online, due two touch-move not being enforced and also due to inbuilt calculation aids (the circles and arrows).
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