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I know which games where I really blew it and when. I'm talking about the games that I'm blown out of the water, every move and the person has a rating of only 1280 and it is done in barely a minute and a half. I'm not playing a person of that rating. I'm playing a computer or a master. I know the difference. My mother was a national champion back in the day.
@Catsuey7 said in #12:
> I know which games where I really blew it and when. I'm talking about the games that I'm blown out of the water, every move and the person has a rating of only 1280 and it is done in barely a minute and a half. I'm not playing a person of that rating. I'm playing a computer or a master. I know the difference. My mother was a national champion back in the day.

Back in the day, that's a good one. We can make an interesting comparison with now.

Because back in the day, we all experienced that and just felt humbled/embarrassed/humiliated when our opponents blew us out of the water and totally outplayed us throughout the game. This happened with opponents who had comparable strength to ours. Despite similar general strength, they understood things where we failed.

That is just as true today. But the tragic difference these days is that sometimes the suspicion of cheating rears its head. Back in the day that wasn't an issue.

If you suspect cheating, then report of course. You may be correct. But don't imagine that you can't get wiped off the board by a fair opponent of your own strength. You can be, very easily.
I've watched many of her tournaments and the other high end players. This was at a national level. She even played occasionally with Grand Masters. Why is someone online, with a very low rating (and other categories are even lower like the speed category they are a 909), playing at that speed with such precision and crushing someone over 1500 points higher? I'm not playing a person.
@Catsuey7 said in #15:
> Why is someone online, with a very low rating (and other categories are even lower like the speed category they are a 909), playing at that speed with such precision and crushing someone over 1500 points higher? I'm not playing a person.

I am curious. You seem to have played only classical. Your rating is around 1300,-1400 as are the ratings of all your opponents. And the games you lost and I looked at - well, you played pretty bad mistakes early on.

So what are you even talking about?! Obviously not *your* games?
The way the rating works, theirs could hardly be so poor if they played as well as you claim. Unless they played poorly most of their games and were only unveiling their true strength against you, of course. But that's not what you believe, right?
@Catsuey7 said in #15:
> [...] Why is someone online, with a very low rating [...] playing at that speed with such precision and crushing someone over 1500 points higher? I'm not playing a person.

That can be said for every rating number. Do you really think the numbers are 100% accurate? Then guess my "real/true/deserved" rapid online rating - im curious... :D
This isn't about you. Why do people not want to admit that cheating online happens?
Cheating does indeed happen. But if someone automatically suspects any lower rated players who defeated them must have been cheating, they are almost always wrong.

Fun fact: so far I noticed only one of my opponents who was (few months later) banned for "ToS violation". And he was ~500 points of rating higher than me when we played so I did not suspect anything... When I lose to a lower rated player, I can usually find some pretty shameful mistakes on my side so that I have no reason to suspect anything either.

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