I Hate Winning

@CSKA_Moscou said in #37:
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This is game staging of behaviour. (and it even has limits of also human basics nature, but within agreed limits, it is a staged behavior). I agree with you, the humanity is often needed to be brought back of the forestage. We were just kidding, people, it was a game. remember?!

This is about attacking with "rage" or "free win" feel. The beauty of chess is making your plan then achieving "acceptance" and forcing for having the success to your opponent. Like superiority satisfaction

@dboing said in #41:
> This is game staging of behaviour. (and it even has limits of also human basics nature, but within agreed limits, it is a staged behavior). I agree with you, the humanity is often needed to be brought back of the forestage. We were just kidding, people, it was a game. remember?!

Yeah, it's just a game...except for the jackals like me who think it's a sport ;))

@CSKA_Moscou said in #43:
> Yeah, it's just a game...except for the jackals like me who think it's a sport ;))

I was not speaking directly at you though. More in abstract. Some self-priming is not so bad. It can help in the sport contexts of chess, I mean social competition.. The game, the board one, is one layer of competition, where the staged goal is to win, but there is also the sport, as you say, that seems to be the essence of OTB competition, the outer layer of competition.

It is your choice. I don't know about that layer. I was speaking, about my own experience, before the more abstract post, about even non-rated games, it is still the goal, officially to win. The attitude acting toward that goal, may have many variants. And if the context of those unitary games is also itself a social competition, well, I think you might not be the only one focusing on winning as the only goal of the game practice. But even for such performance context, the time off competition, there is still chess learning and study, not every game has to be in sport mode.. There are various ways to play chess. I am babbling into saying nothing.

#14 I completely agree with you. There have been times otb that I wasn't going to "win" anything and the other opponent was eager, possibly younger ,and I still felt like a winner in the end:). Great aspect.
BUT, there have also been times, that the opponent was eager and younger and I wanted to crush them;)

@dboing said in #44:
> I was not speaking directly at you though. More in abstract. Some self-priming is not so bad. It can help in the sport contexts of chess, I mean social competition.. The game, the board one, is one layer of competition, where the staged goal is to win, but there is also the sport, as you say, that seems to be the essence of OTB competition, the outer layer of competition.
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> It is your choice. I don't know about that layer. I was speaking, about my own experience, before the more abstract post, about even non-rated games, it is still the goal, officially to win. The attitude acting toward that goal, may have many variants. And if the context of those unitary games is also itself a social competition, well, I think you might not be the only one focusing on winning as the only goal of the game practice. But even for such performance context, the time off competition, there is still chess learning and study, not every game has to be in sport mode.. There are various ways to play chess. I am babbling into saying nothing.

You already said a lot! words full of wisdom! THANKS

I enjoyed reading this article. I've been there. Hello Nick! Winning positions become daunting for me particularly in rapid games when I feel I should be winning but then start panicking about time, which usually spoils the fun of winning and, eventually, the game itself. Defending a lost position is less stressful. Maybe I just read too much about Carl Schlechter.

Having a winning position (but not by a large margin) is stressful but, at least for me, not worse than the tilt of losing 50-100 rating points in less than an hour.

oh prob