Heh...I see. Well, predicting the weather these days would be 100x easier and more accurate if they all just smoked some snuff XD. But yeah of course I worded that bluntly. Getting high isn't the
*only* way to accurately predict the future. Dropping one of those fatman nutter-butter bombs and taking a big, fat shit over a small town is also pretty effective.

just ftr what's MIT mean ? I keep hearing that from time-to-time when people mention it though I have little idea what it stands for

Trigonometry was definitely interesting. It made me addicted to deriving things about geometry, but I haven't done math stuff in too long with few exceptions. But either way, not exactly the same as
you, but I was too addicted to studying opening theory and analyzing commonly supported chess sequences in various engines (played so few humans at chess in my early lifetime as I did just observe
computers playing one another) that I ultimately couldn't control my anxiety for "personal homework" and put off everything to do with school. The only reason I really value trigonometry for
programming applicability now is for things like, the triangle being the base polygon divisive into any screen-drawn polygon for 3-D rendering etc., popular concern for video games somewhat.

But LMAO man that's quite a story there. You took over as the state chess champion for your area, passed your semester because of one single D- this one old chick was willing to give you, XD holy
crap.

Man, this one math teacher hated me for never doing any of the homework and just acing all my tests and quizzes, so she forced my grade to a D-. Fucking dumb blonde bitch substitute teacher just kept
copying off the book all the time to teach a subject she didn't even fucking know anything about anyway (barely got hired for the job it seems, the entire class hated her XD). I guess I just hate
people that act all nice or kind but get so many wrong ideas and judgements that they're just too damn dumb to be worth faking such virtues. Then again, I can think of times where honesty has steered
me wrong XD

"What was the book about the curse and the slavery in the desert? That sounds like no fun at all; the slavery and the living in the desert. What's the one where the girl finds immortal dudes drinking
what sounds like the elixir of life? That sounds like a cool book."
I can't believe it's so hard for me to remember...it's one of those things where if it had been 3 months later, I'd remember it subconsciously without even trying.

Gah...well the first one, I think his name is Stan. He's confined to slavery in a desert overseen by some Warden... Oh yeah, and there's this cool black dude named X-Ray in the group he gets shoved
into. Any luck Google?

ohh shit, it's called "Holes", which instantly reminds me, they're in the desert as slaves because they're all digging holes for that warden bitch, and her secret reason for enslaving them to dig
holes all across the desert is to uncover a treasure chest or something like that from generations where her ancestor was, ah, can't remember that far, it was a pretty deep and interesting story, you
might have even seen the movie

Unfortunately the one about the girl and this small family of 118+-year-old "teenagers" she, somehow ran into I guess, youthfully preserved by some immortality elixir water in the forest, much harder
for me to remember as I've only seen the movie and book once in my life I think. I can't remember any clues worth looking up on Google. She never drinks it though; I can't even remember if the guys
told her about the water. They did stop her from drinking it (it looks like regular water but it's puddled in a forest tree, she was going to randomly drink it till he stopped her); end result of the
novel, she died (happily or not I can't remember), moral at the end about not being afraid of death. that's like 80% of what I remember sadly

Hey thanks for that link you gave but when I went there I guess it's not showing any text...instantly opens the TXT in a new tab and shows nothing without any loading progress animation, etc.. Maybe
I just have to wait some more minutes. Well if it's broken lemme know if there be a link fixed =D

whoops, forgot the link to Holes, just ftr since I can't remember shit lmao
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holes_%28novel%29

True; one way of predicting the future is by making the future (something like a self-fulfilling prophecy). This is how the markets work as well. The big banks and hedge funds know where the price
is going, most of the time, because they take it there.

Well, I didn't graduate because the D-, but it certainly helped. Had she failed me too I would just have taken another class the next semester (and woken up an hour earlier (as it was, I took a half
day and still got enough credits to graduate (that was the solution to the problem, btw - starting at 10:30 am or whatever instead of 7:30 am; I was playing too much chess online at night and not
waking up in time (or rather, going to sleep when it was time to wake up).

MIT is some school on the East coast. Try google.


Hmm, well I do appreciate people (especially women) who are nice and kind even if they don't know what they're talking about. Because, knowing to be kind and nice really is knowing best, nevermind
knowing the technicalities of this or that. And honesty/wisdom require kindness too; it certainly doesn't preclude it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Everlasting


For Sartor Resartus, try clicking on the "Text" link from here:
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=1051

Btw, I read the summary of "Holes"; it doesn't sound that bad after all (a happy ending anyway).

bah, apparently this "MIT" is sooo popular that only someone like me couldn't know XD
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=mit+"east+coat"+school&oq=mit+"east+coat"+school

It just says MIT all the time, no Wiki, no explanation what it means, just social pages using that acronym all the time. :(

haha, that's another, more stable way to put it:
Predict the future by seeing through to its execution. :D
one thing you do have in common with my mom (that whole Scorpio-Leo coincidence from before), is that you always succeed at taking my insane, humorous and disgustingly comedic twists, as literal,
serious arguments, and recognizing whether they're right or wrong. :D While I'm just cracking myself up thinking of this ridiculous bullshit. Well, Scorpio and Leo are both fixed signs, both kind of
"power signs" oriented with truth/facts and responsibility. I get all the childish, rainbow-chasing signs though, so I'm just cracking myself up while you/my mom take the shit for what it is and
retort it xD

"(and woken up an hour earlier (as it was, I took a half
day and still got enough credits to graduate (that was the solution to the problem, btw - starting at 10:30 am or whatever instead of 7:30 am; I was playing too much chess online at night and not
waking up in time (or rather, going to sleep when it was time to wake up)."
heh, that time you forgot all the closing parenthesis - (((())))
Alright yeah it's not like not immediately graduating puts like a sudden end to anything; I'm sure you're aware of the perspective quite enough already that it sounded like a fortunate turn of events.
But, apparently you were so relaxed (as I was while I kept letting a bunch of 0s build up on me for homework grades without caring) that you were indifferent to it, provided the same end result.

lol, my Freshman year of High School, my anxiety problems were so sustained that I couldn't sleep until literally staying up all night every other night, I'd go without 36-72 hours of sleep before
keeping myself up for going to school (protip: don't go to bed for less than 2 hours before needing to wake up, or the end result will be worse), have the taxi come pick me up, struggle to keep my
head up in the air as it'd keep sliding down and clanking against the metal edges of the cab, ow, wakes up, ow, wakes up, hits head, raises head, yay I'm at school and still awake, show up for first
period, shit I need to vomit teacher can you please excuse me, *is lucky there was a plastic booth right out the door*, lol, it's worse than doing any drugs XD, going to school without 72 hours of
sleep

Yeah, well, as a substitute teacher, she might have had the patience and the wisdom to be kind even if she's really pissed, but I still say that bitched needed to chill. She got internally pissed
over shit that don't matter; I was busy with other classes that I knew way less about the material for them than I did math, so fuck homework, it's not even graded in some college math courses, but,
being all kind and nice and whatnot, end result is that she just kept burying and boiling it. It's half-asshattery deception imo, thinking wrong shit about me and acting nice as if they understand
the facts.

I don't believe that honesty requires kindness. I think there is a balance between the two; I can feel quite flattered when I get someone to admit to me that I'm an ass about something XD. But, yes,
I do recognize that a lot of things about kindness go hand-in-hand with wisdom. Not all of them, but a good deal of them. One would have to think for a bit to think of a component of wisdom that
doesn't correlate with kindness and generosity.

Well, '81 is Year of the Rooster. I've always recorded (and on some Internet sites, read) the second tribune of the Eastern zodiac (Ox/Snake/Rooster) to be more oriented with discipline and
generosity, while the fourth tribune of the Eastern zodiac (Rabbit/Sheep/Pig, Sheep being my sign) more oriented with luck/fortune and honesty. But of course differences between the perspective of
astrology don't rule out that your experience tells you better about the ultimate question.

Tuck Everlasting...you know, I'm almost sure that was it.
That definitely was a novel name I heard in my Sixth Grade glass. Yeah, I'm sure you found the book...but how? Did you just Google all of the clues I could think of and manage to find it, or did
things just sound familiar to you? I must suck at Google way more than I realize lol

Yes, thank you; that link is to a page with several working links for it, should work fine for reading the story. Of course I'll get distracted from reading on several occasions, but I'll know
whether I like it.

oh and for Holes, it's one of those stories, where the movie based off it was actually pretty competent and entertaining, you know how books tend to be way better than the movies based on them in a
good deal of cases (less facts thrown out, more intellectual detail, less Hollywood and bs), but yeah mostly a fiction-oriented story

I'm sure there are better

The family curse thing was interesting though...going back to the past in time to recall his ancestor from generations ago, having a love dispute with, someone perhaps related to the Warden enslaving
him? can't remember, was sort of interesting

Yah, I know you're not entirely serious.

On the other hand, that's a really cool symbol actually (((())))

like vibration lines or something. yah i forgot them; oops. well actually i didn't, but i must have gotten lost with all that counting; on the other hand, you only really need the one at the end,
eh?


well, as much as i don't care about school now, i cared to stay in and graduate then; i mean, who doesn't graduate from high school anyway? i just took easier classes my senior year (and with
teachers I liked) and made sure to graduate (almost missed my final in English tho (with one of my favorite teachers). I was doing somebody else's AP history exam for them, then realised at the same
time was my final. got back with 15 minutes left and managed to get an 86% or something like that on 100 questions.


dropping out college wasn't such a big deal, because bill gates dropped out of college, after all.


why'd you take a taxi to school? i do that a lot, btw; well usually only an extra half cycle; i work nights so when i need to be away for days i just stay up. there have been times tho i've stayed
up 2,3 nights in a row. it gets a little crazy after a while tho; sleep is good food.


discipline and generosity i would agree with, tho also honesty (not necessarily luck, but not necessarily not either).


Tuck Everlasting I found on google after some different combinations of ideas/terms. It sounds like a good book.


As for the family curse in holes, no curse is permanant, and that is how the story works in that book too. We fall from grace and redeem ourselves ever after. like a sine curve or something

:D like ripples in the fumes yes?
Well syntactically speaking, the closing parenthesis '))))' are required per the opening ones '((((', but I couldn't help but notice they can be legally omitted when entering them into a graphing
calculator or whatever. lol, I used to just say fuck this shit and play Mario on those, instead of thoroughly listening to lectures for lessons I already knew about ... so yeah I guess they're not
really required. I'm sure you just couldn't be arsed. :P

meh, probably shouldn't mention, but my mom was one of those "who doesn't graduate from High School?" persons, you probably knew about GEDs and such though
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I used to do great in school consistently until my Senior Year. Instead of relaxing to easier classes like you did I tried to focus on college-analysis-like stuff that I thought would be fun, but boy
did some of those classes' teachers piss me off. Making sure to graduate turned out to just be procrastinating for me until being thorough towards the very end.
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lol, you don't mind my asking just so I'm clear. were you *knowingly* or *unknowingly* doing someone else's AP history exam for them? But either way that's a stunt I'd have a hard time pulling. I
was by far the slowest person with questions on tests and quizzes; I'm not sure I'd do the 86% on 100 questions in 15 minutes thing.

Indeed he [Bill Gates] did. I do have to think about that sometimes. I feel very nervous and paranoid about various facilities still having my information or stuff I provided them until after death
and stuff, things like that is why I feel shaky about starting college but not finishing it. But, I certainly never finished it. I don't know what it's like to drop out, as I've never thought about
it; I only took two semesters until my parents split and I had to move away from that institute. My own financial issues came into play, and I've been my own professor of my own education since for
the present time being. I know Bill Gates must have learned a lot of legacy information that influenced what he did--information much harder to come across nowadays, even if it's trivial bits
mostly.

And taking a taxi to school, being all supposedly disabled and such, my parents arranged a city-local taxi service that was into the deal of transporting kids to different K-12 schools. I was within
walking distance of a middle school (and the High School, I found out years later, so long as I didn't mind walking home for 2.5 miles), but I always relied for 3 out of 4 of my HS years on the taxi.
But man it fucking pissed me off when I was late and my mom would just boastingly bitch about shit. My parents always wake up late for shit, too, so what the fuck. No sympathy. Some things you just
never inherit genetically; you teach yourself.
[I forgot, my brother told me a street away there was a bus stop for a public school bus that could drive to the High School, so when the main taxi guy was in the clinic for a stroke or whatever with
all these fatsos taking his place, we gradually stopped using the taxi.]

Though, since you mention that you use the taxi a lot as well, does remind me, my folks always advocated that relying on public transportation was basically always cheaper and safer. It was a subject
brought up multiple times since I fucked up paying attention in my Drivers Ed class to even know there was a behind-the-wheel portion outside the school that I was supposed to be going to to help get
my license. My brother can drive though.

Yeah you're not kidding :D I can't remember staying up 3 nights in a row since I was 15/16, it ain't pretty. It beats the shit out of that to just get plenty of walking excercise until your legs are
burned out that you can sleep. (See in Wisconsin I didn't get no god-damned ticket for walking outside at night without a flashlight, one police chick just asked how old I was (19), info to
potentially link me to any warranted criminals, said ok have a nice night with a smile, but apparently states have different paranoias.) Goddammit I hate it when I get mental boredom while walking
for hours to the point where I wander off in thoughts until I get an erection just as I encounter some dude who's also out for a walk and I have to turn away or whatever, shit I hate that. I can't
even talk to myself in peace goddammit.

Working nights is awesome though...wish I had a job like that

There are different ways to define luck.
Some people say that your own confidence and content strength with your surroundings constitutes luck, or sometimes maybe highly pessimistic people have the reverse that, naturally, nature grants them
luck out of favor for that sort of wisdom.
I'm sure honesty is something 90% of us consider to be good, but a lot of us value civilisation (hey FireFox didn't underline that in red, "hey what are you American-English or something?", oh shit
wait I'm using IE) and positive manners over frequent or pure honesty. Both have their benefits imo, though I'll avoid delving into astrology insofar as that least XD
...
An evil and critical personality has some good; a good and welcoming personality has some evil. I'll say that much.

What mostly started cutting off my anxious fear against death was when I learned about Bhuddism. I guess I could barely remember that was the theme behind Tuck Everlasting, but, the Wiki link you
found does remind me of it all up until the dramatic turning points. I guess the movie was the main reason I had any memory of it though lol, rather than the book.

Well, realistically, no curse is permanent. That is a good and realistic theme to see from the novel Holes, though when we think about eternal life and metaphysical curses that may or may not
possibly exist in this world, those might be even harder to get rid of...hm. But time always allows for redemption; that's for certain. When even your words become unacceptable.

i used to play tetris on my calculator, and a few other simple games

i still play tetris from time to time http://www.freetetris.org/


well, high school really isn't all that important either; it's not like one doesn't/can't learn in the rest of the world; this is especially true for females, who traditionally stay home anyway


I was knowingly taking somebody's exam for him; i think it started off as a joke, then i was like, sure, what the hell. the funny thing was, i had been in that class, but it was one of the ones i
dropped at semester; so they called my name passing out tests but "i" wasn't there (only i was there, in somebody else's guise); none of my classmates said anything.


worried about facilities having your information? i'm not even sure what that means. lots of facilities (government, etc.) have all kinds of papers with our names and numbers on them. it makes no
real difference in the real world; bill gates's success is not contingent upon his college transcripts, or whatever.

i didn't really drop out either, i just left (i had like a 3.7 gpa); at that point (after a year and a half) i was getting bored with school and other circumstances made leaving convenient.


true about some things you learn yourself. i think it alternates a generation; first set of parents takes care well; their kids don't have to; which means they don't know how to take care well of
their kids, who have to develop it on their own, etc.

i don't take the taxi unless i must; i like to drive.


yah, most people don't value or practice pure honesty, nor could they; but a few people do, and it sort of percolates to the rest; something hierarchical

and yah, i'm american but i prefer the soft s to the hard z as far as those words go. My daughter is named elisabeth, for example.


well, a critical personality is sometimes a good thing; if what it's criticising is evil itself; "only faulting faults is faultless". and the reverse is true, as you mention; for example, appeasing
evil forever is not good either; eventually it must be confronted and defeated.


Yah, death is something of an egotistical illusion. the entire thing is timeless, eternal; life is the thing in itself; we only "die" in order to be born again (and as a contrast with which to
appreciate life). sort of like, without fall and winter, spring would be less fulfilling.


In terms of curses, sometimes it depends on one's perspective I suppose; they say, "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it". and sometimes what seems to be a curse is also a blessing in
disguise. i suppose one's perspective can see things either way, or both, at times.

It's been so long since I play Tetris, like, DOS man...that was actually kind of fun haha, got my ass kicked on Level 1 though. 858 points with 9 lines cleared, although with so many variants to
Tetris I didn't even know I was supposed to focus on filling up just individual lines. It was kind of like that Mario game I played on my calculator XD in that they both used Tetris. Mario's too
motherfucking fat to fit his ass in any of the holes though just to plant a brick. I tell ya...plumbing and tetris don't mix.
...hm

Yeah, High School itself skips a lot of stuff but kind of tells you where to go if you want to learn more potentially. It's a burden to try and help American ignorance, but there are cases where it
does more harm than good (even if indirectly so).

lawl, I didn't fully understand the whole scenario there, but I snickered at the idea of you taking a test even though you just dropped the class, thus having your name called when it shouldn't have
been

Well, I guess it depends on what sort of "facilities" you'd care to instantiate.
My adoptive / in-law grandfather argues that putting your last name on the Internet isn't a big deal and things like that. But I used his name plus his approximate age and state of residence to find
his exact date of birth, address, telephone number, middle name, meh. You'd have to be a completely happy and proud citizen to not hate little shits gossiping that information childishly over the
Internet XD. But not really then again I guess. :)

I don't know really what constitutes "legally" dropping out of school, but I see what you mean. I didn't have a choice but to leave, but I did miss going to tournaments through the chess club at the
technical college I went to. That was when I was actually started improving at chess based on playing human beings, rather than computers, all the time, even though I was already at intermediate
skill just from training with computers.

That's a good way to put it yea...it's like the more disciplined you are, the more caring and experienced you are with training your descendants, yet they lack the discipline of not being challenged
by less inept parents. I daresay I witness that cycle well over half of the time.

You prefer driving over relying on public transportation because it feels better? Listening to music? Nice frames or design XD? Independence, get rid of that mortally excessive thing called
"money", etc.

I wouldn't think in terms of pure honesty. It's okay to subtly change the question in your answer if some grotesque person asks you if they look sexy (uhh maybe), but the idea is civilization versus
truth, the realism of our constitutions and their surroundings. Treat others how you want to be treated...so if you white lie to people, you enjoy the challenge-free life of being white-lied to with
complements etc., no ambition, no adventure, sounds boring to me.

lol, it makes me think of "niggaz"
You push your luck by creating a potentially acceptable system, that encourages people into creating unacceptable distortions XD
The 'z' over 's' thing is retarded IMHO. But I guess it's acceptable. I used it because I was taught to spell that way, but fuck, maybe I should just avoid such words altogether.

Yes, that's what I meant by "evil" having some "good" and "good" having some "evil". They're all ideas in the long run, but in the counterbalance perspective, all fire has water, and all water has
fire. It's very difficult to remember though...I was told about it once by someone. So yes just an example of that would be a critical, aggressive personality having some good and not just evil,
even though the general nature of such a personality itself is evil.

You know...in at least some sense, we are born again even after death. That was again what made me fear the idea of death less, was the belief in sacred reincarnation like under Bhuddism. But the
feeling of life in this mortal world is a mixture of constant heaven and constant hell; is there really anything more painful to experience afterwards until a new life is begun? Until then, all there
is is to rest.
From Julius Caesar, "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant die but once."

Heh, when my family asked me if I came across a magic lamp with a genie or whatever that would grant a wish, as an example, what would I wish for if I could have anything? After showering and
thinking about it, I decided the best answer was to not wish for anything. Because any wish you name has both a blessing and a curse, I believe. It's not exactly what you were getting at...but, if
you name any wish you could make to a genie, it could be perceived as something totally against what you have in mind. It doesn't have to be exactly what you intended to be granted, a
500-page-essay-long-wish that you clearly and literally enunciated, to be something you will regret.