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mb Apr 1, 2012 6:59 AM #51

Coffee never worked for me; combination of sugar/caffeine does. I know somebody like that tho; she gets more tired from coke, etc.

lulz; walking at night without a flashlight. That's a new one.


Well, it's not just poverty that results in war. There's just a lot of social strife, moral strife; broken families/relationships, abused animals raised in factories for food (if you are what you
eat, then people may get depressed that way (I don't eat factory farmed meat)), and I think all that negative energy has a lot more to do with the downward spiral, at the bottom of which is depression
and war. It's probably more complex than just that; the material aspect is important too (if an economy is in bad shape, people don't have the same opportunities and motivations, needs aren't being
met and this puts pressure/tension on people and their relationships too)


I haven't read fiction in years. Maybe I outgrew that too. I think the last fictional book I read was The Secret Sharer.

Mephostophilis Apr 2, 2012 2:22 AM #52

Yeah, the exact name of the law was "failure to carry light on public roadway". It's specific only to this state; at least I haven't read that other states here use that law. It was created for the
pedestrian's safety, not so burglars could see what they're stealing by using a flashlight. ;)
But the officers who got called to the scene that night (granted, more like 1 AM in the morning lmao, couldn't get to sleep) were just pissed they got interrupted from their doughnut break probably.

How about, running over a police officer without a flashlight, is it okay if I make sure to shove the flashlight up his ass from the car lights, or do I get fined, idk man fuck these people

Coke XD, well I guess you meant the drink, though, I read for a research paper I was writing that, back in the day, the Coke soda product as we know it, once used to actually contain a small amount of
cocaine. If that is honestly true, I can't imagine how they managed to fuck that up.
But anyway, you know, now that you mention it, I can't remember coffee ever helping me unless I got absolutely no sleep at all, for my next day of class at college, the black coffee made a damn good
difference between feeling sick to vomiting just staying awake to not lose participation points at school. But, ultimately, for waking up and not feeling like shit, bah, coffee by itself seems to
have no effect. Haven't tried it with something really sugary though, although I would buy tons of those unhealthy KwikTrip slushies and such XD.

Well yeah I guess I kind of bridged a bit quickly from the earlier concept of war being a solution. The poverty was only there in the first place because bankers were being speculative and probably
some other reasons my history teacher covered that I forgot :) But poverty wasn't the only problem behind the "depression"; it would not have had the context then of cause and effect, granted a lot
of the piss-poor lives came about from poverty to lead to mass unemployment and societal collapse between teams. Granted it was worldwide was more the root of it serving as a cause, rather than the
fact that the specific instance was poverty.
More because a mass decay like that is easier to support mass family breaks and moral and social strives, not too sure about the animals in factories business though I know it's not any easier on the
chickens these days, honestly I'd rather just eat a cheese pizza and ice cream over most meats hehe.

I've never heard of that book, but go figure (well does sound like I've heard someone say the name before, or I'm just high off secret shares...lol, wtf kind of book were you reading back there XD).

I only read those books cause school required it lolz, except the recent "Alas, Babylon" that my brother gave away to me. It was sort of an interesting read, only halfway through it then again
honestly heh. From school I think the last book I read was uhhh, fuck, can't remember even the title XD, well whatever it's about this kid and this war veteran, black teacher who easily gets a job at
the kid's school, and they get to know each other, and they both share an initiative for kindness and helping people across the world, so the kid creates this system where he helps 3 people and makes
them happy, each of the 3 people must do some [small] act of kindness for 3 other people, etc. until exponentially the whole world is a more peaceful community.

The movie sucked though.

Mephostophilis Apr 2, 2012 2:24 AM #53

heh, guess my habit isn't one to break, yet not too huge

I find it somehow funny that one anonymous dude asks mb if he's an ecologist, he says not exactly, and the rest of the thread is just mortally inconceivable discussion to everybody else except two
people XD

Mephostophilis Apr 2, 2012 2:45 AM #54

The kid's name was Trevor...I hated reading class so bad that I remember so little else.

Man, I don't remember any of the fucking names of books I read in any school classes except self-defining names like, "Frankenstein" (don't have to read books to have a stereotypical picture of him
e.g. Hollywood), Huckleberry Fin, and The Scarlet Letter.
I hated almost every English teacher I ever had with a passion, just got sick of their bias and stereotypical bullshit of the other classes in school. I hate being forced to do shit like write
autobiographies or drama play various stories in my life, but the actual learning about morals, lessons, wisdoms, Latin roots and linguistics etc. was pretty cool.

mb Apr 2, 2012 10:47 AM #55

That reminds me of The Road (by Cormac McCarthy, which I haven't read but I've read about), and No Country for Old Men, based on another McCarthy book that incorporated the "carrying the fire"
aspect.


As for your hypothetical, car lights don't protrude, so that option is out; plus, if you didn't have your lights on, how would you see to run him over? :D


Coke still contains coca extract:

"Coca-Cola includes as an ingredient a coca leaf extract prepared by a Stepan Company plant in Maywood, New Jersey.[2] The facility, which had been known as the Maywood Chemical Works, was purchased
by Stepan in 1959.[3] The plant is the only commercial entity in the USA authorized by the Drug Enforcement Administration to import coca leaves, which come primarily from Peru. Approximately 100
metric tons of dried coca leaf are imported each year. The cocaine-free leaves are sold to The Coca Cola Company, while the cocaine is sold to Mallinckrodt, a pharmaceutical firm, for medicinal
purposes.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Company


Yah, the chickens are actually genetically modified to develop quicker (as are cows and others), and to have lots of breast meat; as a consequence they have trouble walking (not that there's much of
that to do anyway, given their cramped surroundings). Pizza and ice cream still involves dairy; first they impregnate a cow, she gives birth, then she starts lactating; then if it's a male cow they
kill it, if it's a female they take it away and raise it to be in the same business as her mother. At that point the lactation is coopted for human consumption. I also hear they impregnate the cows
every year (a repeat of this process) in order to generate more milk producers.

Anyway, we don't consume dairy either, not even organic (we do eat organic meat). Because, really now, we're not baby cows.


The Secret Sharer is a book by Joseph Conrad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Sharer

He also wrote Heart of Darkness, upon which Apocalypse Now was based

I did like Huckleberry Finn, tho most of the rest of the books assigned in school were so-so. I didn't even read most of them. Fortunately, we can read whatever we like, in school or otherwise.

All my favorite books I read on my own (Ulysses, Sartor Resartus, Tao te Ching, I Ching, Ecclesiastes, Psalms, etc.)

Mephostophilis Apr 2, 2012 9:07 PM #56

I've not heard of McCarthy or those books (well the last name yes, but, not by the first name Cormac). I guess they sound advanced to be anything I'd know from school. Man, the name keeps hanging on
my mind somehow...I do remember I read All Quiet and the Western Front, Dr. Faustus by Christopher Marlowe, The DaVinci Code (well I tried anyway), ...some other novel that took place in Africa, guy I
think his name was Okonkwo lived a family life to be the exact opposite of his father, can't remember.

heh, well, thanks to Google found that one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_Fall_Apart

ohh damn, found the other one, never would have remembered it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_It_Forward
anyway it's like whether I remember a book's name is like 50-50 random now or whatever

"As for your hypothetical, car lights don't protrude, so that option is out; plus, if you didn't have your lights on, how would you see to run him over? :D"
lol, I'll shove the whole damn car up his ass if I have to, make it one of those ghetto poop jalopies or something so that the car lights will fit in, and voilà, no legal fine for me :D in this
country I guess it's just a matter of being complete and thorough enough with the crime so that it's not a legal violation

Besides, all lights protrude from their source, just not their container necessarily (but I prefer giving the mentally insane, unstable answer over the logical, sensible one for some reason)
heh about the question I think it's safe to say, considering what fatasses these people are, I don't have to know it's a game of hide-and-seek in the dark to run that tubby over without ever even
knowing about it. Therefore it's only a fine if you unconsciously, without looking, run over a cop; not if you do it on purpose. :D

"How do you plead?"
"Not guilty."
"Do you admit that you ran over a cop on 1234 Dough Boy Lane?"
"Yep, but I did it on purpose. And I had my flashlight on me."
"But do you have a video recording or some proof that the light actually went up his ass?"
"Yep, here it is, high quality 1600x1200, burn it on to your favorite DVD or whatever you want."
"ok, guess you're free to go then"

I swear to God that could become a legitimate, non-fiction court case in this country, because my mom advised me to go to court for that retarded no-flashlight-in-the-dark shit, and I know full well
that fine or no fine, record or no record, is 100% positively about the facts and literal truth: did you do it or did you not? Not why, not whether you were religiously or morally "forced" to do so,
just the pure logical fact and reasoning over morals. Which I respect, but still, this could pave way for some fun revenge.

...oh, wow, so both Coke and Coca-Cola have a history of using coke for the soda XD, except from that link you gave it looks like the later (or latter for those goddamn Kangaroo people, why the fuck
do people insist on using a dumbass ladder latter and not what comes later) still has the snuff (err, stuff) in it :D

...that paragraph about the chickens and cows...goddamn, it's no wonder this nation is so full of lazy-asses. They only use the reversed Chinese birth regulation on cows but not humans XD, damn, puts
an interesting twist on the net equality of all things...but at least my pizza has lots of sauce XD
T_T after all that ice cream, nothing organic

[From the link...] Ah, that kind of Secret Sharer. :D "Arrrr...there be more than one use for a plank, maties!! Get the fukk off meh plank, or I'll have ye walk the pearl!!" (i.e. pearl or
snow/coke) heh but the imagery from the actual story is a lot more interesting for me to realistically picture

lol yeah! I got the point in school where being forced to read through books every single damn day, fuck it, I'll just keep working on solving the cubic formula, alternately deriving the quadratic
formula or something chemistry- /physics-related. I'll just put some random drug answers on the homework and when it's test time, by then I'll have read some summary about the book and ace the tests
like I do other classes and still pass. Any college-preparatory class should not be valuing the homework over tests and quizzes.

But yeah I can't think of any books I got from school that I liked more than ones where I'd judge a book by its cover, on the shelf, and go borrow it for a read. There are simple explanations for
that I guess. Sadly can't remember anything about those books you mentioned except I read something about "Ulysses" somewhere.

mb Apr 3, 2012 6:18 AM #57

The sauce on a pizza isn't much better; it will turn you into a zombie:

see: http://lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/french-fries-and-ketchup


Are you sure you don't smoke weed? Because I used to get really high and write things like ^this^ but I don't think they were that crazy, come to think of it :D


Math used to be my favorite subject, but anymore it's too abstract ("tao called tao is not tao", and math is a language one degree removed from (more super intentional than) words, which literally,
reflexively give voice to our earliest thoughts).


I read All Quiet on the Western Front for school and liked it; I also read Things Fall Apart for a class, but it was forgettable.

Ulysses is definitely worth reading. It's not just intellectually engaging; it's also a deliberate literary masterpiece (each chapter is a different form of writing). Sartor Resartus is brilliant
too (I think it's the last, best book I've read).

Mephostophilis Apr 4, 2012 12:17 AM #58

[I must say sorry for delay response. I'm a bit agitated at this situation of repacking and moving stuff into a new place in this case, as only something like this could bring about small and cut
Internet access times for the first time in months :D always had very stable connection schedules until this week.]

Dude, shit, I swear I've seen that thread before (I think it was one of those dumbass porn bots.) I get extreme de-ja-vu but can recognize interesting articles. Potato, nightshade, and uh *tab
switch to check* eggplant...they all kind of make me think of the appearance zombies have in anime and shit. Like, the potato is hard, unsaturated, and crooked or mutated with those "eyes" that need
to be cut off, nightshade...never seen it before, but zombies like night I guess, and eggplant and tomatoes, somehow my intuition makes me think to relate them to properties of a zombie more than
stuff like corn and wheat, or it's just my bias.

I've always hated tomatoes (but not pizza) as a little kid anyway. My dad even lied to me that one of them tasted like M&Ms candy to get me to try a specific one, and well mommy was in on the lie I
guess, but the fact remained that I hated it.

lol, I could have sworn a bunch of people kept asking me that, ("Are you sure you don't/haven't smoke[d] weed?") but I guess I must have taken so many fumes from the puffs I can't remember ever doing
it (presuming I did). It must run naturally in my blood or something XD; both my parents did some illegal drugs before I was born. But seriously man, I swear that court case story I wrote up there
could potentially come true. It's unrealistic now, especially granted that running a flashlight up a cop's ass with a car tends to commit a murder/felony, but fuck it; I know it could happen in the
future of this nation's system of law XD. Being high is the only way to predict the future accurately anyway haha...huh....

I always remembered one Greek philosopher's summary: "Mathematics is the alphabet in which the universe was created." So rather than being a language, it's an order of law we humans create languages
(like, from highest to lowest level, Calculus, algebra, arithmetic, and quantitative numbering, all languages created by constructing squiggles on a piece of paper like '0' to '9', '+', '/', etc.) to
try to understand. I kind of hate Calculus because of this one fucking nimrod who, along with any other science-over-math emphasists, just blow the systematic idea behind math out of proportion and
confuse a belief like, everything in the universe being made up of numbers, with shit like, taking a magnifying glass to such objects and seeing miniature 0s and 1s or whatever, fucking nimrods
deliberately changing the context to insult others' intelligence without a better idea of how to boost their own appearance.

Apparently I remember more about Be Quiet with the Dusty Butt than I do about Shit Splits Apart. I liked the later in a more cultural sense kind of, but the first was a lot more socially interesting,
from what little I remember about the chapters. Those were just from High School though...from Middle School I remember reading The Giver, ...eh, can't remember, this one novel where this guy's
ancestor cursed his family and he's doing slave work in some desert for this warden bitch, The Wattsons Go to Birmingham(?), some other story where this girl finds a bunch of dudes who are immortal
off of some strange water, bah, so on 'n sumsh!t.

The name Ulysses is what rings a bell to me for some reason, but I don't think I've ever heard of Sartor Resartus. I'll pull a Wiki on it or whatever; hell these days, people can pirate a lot of
books off the Internet as PDFs or whatever haha.

mb Apr 4, 2012 12:51 PM #59

You're right that getting high is a way to predict the future accurately, tho I wouldn't say the only way. Most meteorologists probably don't smoke weed (or do they?). My grandpa was an academic
meteorologist; I don't think he did (but I didn't know him either).


I was always really good at math (I have a cousin who teaches it at MIT). But I quit studying right around trigonometry. It got boring and I was playing too much chess. I won the state (chess)
championship my senior year, but also failed 6/7 courses first semester (got one D- (in English (she was like 80 years old and liked me apparently (still graduated :D)))). I came to understand
calculus later conceptually (numbers in motion), but I never studied it.


What was the book about the curse and the slavery in the desert? That sounds like no fun at all; the slavery and the living in the desert. What's the one where the girl finds immortal dudes drinking
what sounds like the elixir of life? That sounds like a cool book.

If you only read one I would read Sartor Resartus. I'd say it's more advanced. It is online (tho I prefer a paperback) http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/0/5/1051/1051.txt

It's latin for "the tailor retailored"

mb Apr 4, 2012 12:53 PM #60

It is the story of the philosophy of clothes